pure h2h i guess can be argued either way depending each others mood.
if thor is enraged and she is not she gets trashed like supes did her.
If she is angry and focused warrior mentality i can see her using her MA skills to take Thor down..
does she have any decent MA /combat feats that she could use on thor, like pressure points or anatomical knowledge?
Originally posted by -Pr-No. If she could have killed him any time she wanted, she was clearly more limited. Limited by her love. She held back. While he did not. He gave her unending punishment, used his powers at their height, and even amped himself further. While she was trying to calm him, stall him to Max Lord, and protect innocents. Max even said that eventually they would kill each other. That is a clear indication that they both could kill each other. If Superman were so much more powerful than her, he wouldn't even need to be focused. One punch should do it.
even if you want to argue that, he was still more limited than she was.
Originally posted by TitoSanchez
No. If she could have killed him any time she wanted, she was clearly more limited. Limited by her love. She held back. While he did not. He gave her unending punishment, used his powers at their height, and even amped himself further. While she was trying to calm him, stall him to Max Lord, and protect innocents. Max even said that eventually they would kill each other. That is a clear indication that they both could kill each other. If Superman were so much more powerful than her, he wouldn't even need to be focused. One punch should do it.
Disagree, tbh. She barely held back, and for the majority of the fight was on the defensive. He hurt her more than she hurt him. Even when she slashed his throat, all she was doing was slowing him down.
Was she limited by her unwillingness to kill him? Sure. Did it make her as ineffective as he was? No, imo.
and while she would be capable of killing him, he's far more capable of doing it to her than vice versa, and i think the fight illustrates that.
and him being out of his mind is a HUGE factor, considering all his best wins are ones of efficiency and smarts rather than rage. he's not the hulk.
Re: The Hulk neck snap by Thor
Hey! That is totally Diana's signature move 😛
Originally posted by -Pr-
Disagree, tbh. She barely held back, and for the majority of the fight was on the defensive. He hurt her more than she hurt him. Even when she slashed his throat, all she was doing was slowing him down.
The 'he hurt her more' is only by a small margin. The ear-smash, the blow to his side he was holding, the being knocked down hard enough he decided to lie down for awhile... the orbital hit was more than any of those, but not by a lot. She inflicted some pretty major damage too.
Though a point in favor of both of 'em is that despite all the pounding and hurting and cuts and heat vision, neither actually stopped heroing or even fighting tough foes for the day 🙂 Those two are bad. ass.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Disagree, tbh. She barely held back, and for the majority of the fight was on the defensive. He hurt her more than she hurt him. Even when she slashed his throat, all she was doing was slowing him down.Was she limited by her unwillingness to kill him? Sure. Did it make her as ineffective as he was? No, imo.
and while she would be capable of killing him, he's far more capable of doing it to her than vice versa, and i think the fight illustrates that.
and him being out of his mind is a HUGE factor, considering all his best wins are ones of efficiency and smarts rather than rage. he's not the hulk.
Originally posted by TitoSanchez
He has a sun amp during thier fight. He was not holding back any punches or speed or heat vision. I doubt Superman could kill Wonder Woman any faster than she could he. Amazo tried and failed. Amazo is superior to Superman. Ares tried and failed. Also Superior to Superman. Circe tried and failed. Zoom would Kick Superman's ass and she beat him while blinded. Superman's best attack moves are fist, which she is highly durable against, and heat vision, which her reflexes, natural durability, and bracers take care of. Now how would he take a jolt of her magical Zeus lightning? I think a few of those rounds would put him out for the count. She has magical lightning, a magic tiara, and a lasso and better skills and reflexes. He has at best marginal strength and movement speed advantages.
if you really want to compare who he's beaten and withstood against her record, he'll win.
Originally posted by -Pr-Superman's record is silly. He beats people he shouldn't because they forget thier powers. Now get his record against people who used every single one of thier abilities, and his list becomes non existant or unimpressive. Thanks.
if you really want to compare who he's beaten and withstood against her record, he'll win.
Originally posted by TitoSanchez
Superman's record is silly. He beats people he shouldn't because they forget thier powers. Now get his record against people who used every single one of thier abilities, and his list becomes non existant or unimpressive. Thanks.
Except that it doesn't. Throwing out every impressive win he's had just because you don't like it isn't going to end well.