Originally posted by carver9Well....lets see hulk vs black bolt...http://img112.exs.cx/img112/7639/vh40st.jpg
Why not hulk? His power is limitless and some of if not ALL of the people that you all name, hulk would run through them. Hell, you could team some of them up and hulk would still win without bfring.So yeah, hulk belongs. His power is brutal.
http://img27.exs.cx/img27/7936/vhulk37dh.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3176/hulk40cw.jpg
Hes been taken at least 3 times.....WWH hulk only beat a skrull black bolt. I say black bolt over hulk anyday.
Originally posted by Damborgson👆 One of the few if only characters to consistently beat the Hulk with without weakness exploitation.
Well....lets see hulk vs black bolt...http://img112.exs.cx/img112/7639/vh40st.jpghttp://img27.exs.cx/img27/7936/vhulk37dh.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3176/hulk40cw.jpg
Hes been taken at least 3 times.....WWH hulk only beat a skrull black bolt. I say black bolt over hulk anyday.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Well....lets see hulk vs black bolt...http://img112.exs.cx/img112/7639/vh40st.jpghttp://img27.exs.cx/img27/7936/vhulk37dh.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3176/hulk40cw.jpg
Hes been taken at least 3 times.....WWH hulk only beat a skrull black bolt. I say black bolt over hulk anyday.
Ok, first of all you showed me classic hulk who isn't close to being what his current self is.
Another thing... the skrullbolt was just as powerful as the original, the only thing he lacked was experience. This was proven when reed put skrullbolt into a tub and reed asked him to scream in which skrullbolt scream being so powerful that it opened up a time/space portal.
Hulk STIIL tanked that scream (which almost WRECKED the moon) and asked for more.
Like I said before, two of the people mentioned in this thread could double teaqm hulk and possibly lose.
By the way, black bolt is a natural beast, EVERYONE fears his scream. He has had sentry terrified, one shotted apocalypse with it and destroyed a city with just a whisper... took out the hulk, took out magneto, took out sphinx, gladiator etc, etc... you are seriously underating him and imo he IS high herald and could beat the best of them minus surfer (and could probably beat him as well).
Originally posted by Nihilist
Nah their not, they are mid at best, none of them are Surfer,Thor,Genis,Sentry league.
Wtf...
Gladiator has beaten thor TWICE on panel. Gladiator has ran through nova before and tanked his best, one shotted binary, ran through masterson... etc, etc...
Black bolt is just as strong and just as powerful as any high herald and his fights against high end people proves this. Sentry was TERRIFIED of black bolt... a high herald. Magneto along with a others feared facing black bolt. He IS high herald.
I shouldn't even have to explain nova, he is high herald as well.
I haven't seen any better suggestions than my Black Bolt and/or Cpt. Atom earlier.
Originally posted by Spire
Pfft! All this master inventor bullshizzle.Batman sings Chocolate Rain causing everyone to self-bfr. Batman then goes and stands on top of a building.
Batman - 1
Everybody else - 0
😂
Originally posted by Nihilist
Nah their not, they are mid at best, none of them are Surfer,Thor,Genis,Sentry league.
That's really the crux of it. So many people who are like "wtf, why aren't they HH?" the answer comes easily if you make a thread about it. For example, Superman vs. 90% of the Mid Herald tier just roflstomps them, and the other 10% would only have a chance because they have access to one of his weaknesses.
The list was never perfect, and wasn't intended to be anything but "general." But I do feel like it holds up better to scrutiny than many think.
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator has beaten thor TWICE on panel. Gladiator has ran through nova before and tanked his best, one shotted binary, ran through masterson... etc, etc...
And Thor also has a win against Glads.
srug
But where a brawl might be a push between the two, it's demonstrably false to say Glads is everything Thor is because of his energy/matter manipulation via Mjolnir. You have to look at everything about a character, not just a head-to-head matchup.
Originally posted by carver9Low showings for Thor, and Masterson Thor easily held his own and then beat Glads with some quick thinking via living lightining.
[B]Wtf...Gladiator has beaten thor TWICE on panel. Gladiator has ran through nova before and tanked his best, one shotted binary, ran through masterson... etc, etc...
Black bolt is just as strong and just as powerful as any high herald and his fights against high end people proves this. Sentry was TERRIFIED of black bolt... a high herald. Magneto along with a others feared facing black bolt. He IS high herald.BB would not beat any of the HH i named, and Sentry wasnt scared of BB at all, he just didnt want to fight him because of the damage it would cause.
I shouldn't even have to explain nova, he is high herald as well.Because you cant name anything that he does on a regular that makes him a HH.
I tell you what lets make a thread out of it and see who wins?
Originally posted by Digi
I haven't seen any better suggestions than my Black Bolt and/or Cpt. Atom earlier.😂
That's really the crux of it. So many people who are like "wtf, why aren't they HH?" the answer comes easily if you make a thread about it. For example, Superman vs. 90% of the Mid Herald tier just roflstomps them, and the other 10% would only have a chance because they have access to one of his weaknesses.
The list was never perfect, and wasn't intended to be anything but "general." But I do feel like it holds up better to scrutiny than many think.
And Thor also has a win against Glads.
srug
But where a brawl might be a push between the two, it's demonstrably false to say Glads is everything Thor is because of his energy/matter manipulation via Mjolnir. You have to look at everything about a character, not just a head-to-head matchup.
I agree but if someone could pull some wins from the most powerful high herald and could POSSIBLY pull a split then yes, he should be considered a high herald. Gladiator has shown that he can hang with thor and gladiator completely bashing and humiliating masterson is also proof of this. He also one shotted binary, someone who in their own right is a high herald imo.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Low showings for Thor, and Masterson Thor easily held his own and then beat Glads with some quick thinking via living lightining.BB would not beat any of the HH i named, and Sentry wasnt scared of BB at all, he just didnt want to fight him because of the damage it would cause.
Because you cant name anything that he does on a regular that makes him a HH.
I tell you what lets make a thread out of it and see who wins?
Wow... so we ignore showings on a character that doesn't have many WOW. I give up on you... just remember, gladiator dna made a thanos clone 4 times stronger than the original thanos.
Originally posted by carver9😂 he made the clone 4 times stronger than Gladiator not Thanos and Thanos said the clone was only now equal to his own might, and that clone could even beat down Adam Warlock, plus Warlock said his own fighting skills and speed would of let him beat that Glads clone but he was facing another clone at the same time.
... just remember, gladiator dna made a thanos clone 4 times stronger than the original thanos.
So thats a no on the vs thread then?
