Originally posted by Nihilist
😂 he made the clone 4 times stronger than Gladiator not Thanos and Thanos said the clone was only now equal to his own might, and that clone could even beat down Adam Warlock, plus Warlock said his own fighting skills and speed would of let him beat that Glads clone but he was facing another clone at the same time.So thats a no on the vs thread then?
Buddy, I think you are wording that wrong.
Show the scan please.
Pretty sure the clone was four times stronger than Thanos not Gladiator.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Rage, I already said in a forum fight I would give thor 8 or 9/10 against glads. Stop trippin.
I'm not tripping. I'm just curious as to why you continue to make this shit up when I've gone over it with you more than once.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pretty sure the clone was four times stronger than Thanos not Gladiator.I'm not tripping. I'm just curious as to why you continue to make this shit up when I've gone over it with you more than once.
We just have different opinions on those specific fights and honestly, we never got finished debating about that topic but I just don't want to go through all of that today. What I can say is that thor did prove that he is more powerful than gladiator, I am not denying that at all but again, we have different views.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusJust re read it now, it Was Warlock that though the clone was 4-5 times stronger than the original Thanos, it was Thanos himself that said 3 of the clones matched his own might and the other was a lower lvl clone(excluding Omega of course)
[B]Pretty sure the clone was four times stronger than Thanos not Gladiator.
Originally posted by carver9
We just have different opinions on those specific fights and honestly, we never got finished debating about that topic but I just don't want to go through all of that today. What I can say is that thor did prove that he is more powerful than gladiator, I am not denying that at all but again, we have different views.
People can have different opinions regarding topics. Unfortunately, you're opinion is so far off base it's wrong.
Originally posted by carver9Yeah okay the only thing he lacks is experience? Experience is everything. Id ike to hear ur definition of a scream. It was a whisper. A whisper did that to the moon and blew hulk away like that. Had it been regular black bolt and he let out in a casual manner, "enough" Hulk would have gone down. A whisper Ko'd classic hulk and he could have taken down WWH. Had he not been captured at the time. Hulk is barely worth Black bolts time imo. Hes just not powerful enough.
Ok, first of all you showed me classic hulk who isn't close to being what his current self is.Another thing... the skrullbolt was just as powerful as the original, the only thing he lacked was experience. This was proven when reed put skrullbolt into a tub and reed asked him to scream in which skrullbolt scream being so powerful that it opened up a time/space portal.
Hulk STIIL tanked that scream (which almost WRECKED the moon) and asked for more.
Like I said before, two of the people mentioned in this thread could double teaqm hulk and possibly lose.
By the way, black bolt is a natural beast, EVERYONE fears his scream. He has had sentry terrified, one shotted apocalypse with it and destroyed a city with just a whisper... took out the hulk, took out magneto, took out sphinx, gladiator etc, etc... you are seriously underating him and imo he IS high herald and could beat the best of them minus surfer (and could probably beat him as well).
Originally posted by dmills
@carver,9/10? Damn. Even rage wouldn't give him 9/10 over Glads.
Lol... the only reason I give him so high is because of the in-character personality gladiator has. He is just TOO cocky, that is why he have loses under his belt.. his cockyness (I know that's not a word).
I would give thor a high majority like that against any herald minus surfer, he is just that good to me. Not a 9/10 but pretty close to it and I am one of the peeps that thinks that thor could pull some wins from thanos.
By the way, I know a lil more about thor than rage does. 😉
Originally posted by Nihilist
Here's Thanos saying about the clones power.And Warlock take on his fight with the Glads clone.
You don't see the difference in those statements.
No one said that the clone that was stronger thanos was MORE POWERFUL, what I am saying is that the clone was physically stronger.
Thanos WAS more powerful than the clone, the clone was only a physical bruiser, didn't have the versatility or power output thanos has but going by warlocks statement, he was stronger.
Just like surfer... hulk is stronger than surfer but surfer is overall, more powerful.
Just because someone is stronger doesn't make them more powerful.
Do you have some statements saying that thanos is stronger than "that" clone?
Could someone post the scan of Warlock commenting on the clone's strength? I don't have it on hand.
If the clone is intended to be four times stronger than Thanos, then I'd argue each of the clones focused on one particular trait (Strength, magic etc.) in which they were superior to Thanos, but since it was only one specific trait, Thanos' might still rivaled their own.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way, I know a lil more about thor than rage does. 😉
baka
Originally posted by carver9
I will post my proof when I get off of work tonight.
What proof? There evidence just isn't there.
Gladiator has never beaten Thor twice. The one instance that could be counted as a win wasn't even a real win against Thor and had other circumstances. He never humiliated and trashed -unless you're referring to the verbal part of the fight which I doubt- Masterson. That fight made it clear that the two were physically equal in strength with Masterson being more powerful/versatile while Gladiator is more formidable in hand to hand combat due to being an experienced warrior in comparison to the untrained Masterson.
And let's not even delve into your more fanatical opinions of Gladiator being beyond Thor in strength, Gladiator possessing nigh infinite strength that's only limited by his mental state etc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Could someone post the scan of Warlock commenting on the clone's strength? I don't have it on hand.If the clone is intended to be four times stronger than Thanos, then I'd argue each of the clones focused on one particular trait (Strength, magic etc.) in which they were superior to Thanos, but since it was only one specific trait, Thanos' might still rivaled their own.
baka
What proof? There evidence just isn't there.
Gladiator has never beaten Thor twice. The one instance that could be counted as a win wasn't even a real win against Thor and had other circumstances. He never humiliated and trashed -unless you're referring to the verbal part of the fight which I doubt- Masterson. That fight made it clear that the two were physically equal in strength with Masterson being more powerful/versatile while Gladiator is more formidable in hand to hand combat due to being an experienced warrior in comparison to the untrained Masterson.
And let's not even delve into your more fanatical opinions of Gladiator being beyond Thor in strength, Gladiator possessing nigh infinite strength that's only limited by his mental state etc.
Rage, I know your adrenaline is rushing but can we talk about this later. Be patient because you are going to get owned regardless. Ill post my proof later... we need to end this anyway because you and I have been talking about this for at least a year.
Originally posted by carver9Each clone represented a power form of Thanos ie physical strength(Glads clone) mental power(X clone).
You don't see the difference in those statements.No one said that the clone that was stronger thanos was MORE POWERFUL, what I am saying is that the clone was physically stronger.
Thanos WAS more powerful than the clone, the clone was only a physical bruiser, didn't have the versatility or power output thanos has but going by warlocks statement, he was stronger.
Just like surfer... hulk is stronger than surfer but surfer is overall, more powerful.
Just because someone is stronger doesn't make them more powerful.
Do you have some statements saying that thanos is stronger than "that" clone?
Do you have a scan of anything saying that the Glads clone was stronger than Thanos(because thats what you claimed first)? rather than Warlock thinking it was stronger than Thanos, as Warlock himslef has stated he has never seen Thanos fully exert himself and he has never physically fought Thanos to know his strength lvl.
And f*cking lol if you think Glads strength is anything on its own compared to Thanos, Thanos would pimp slap the shit out of him.
Originally posted by carver9Current might be. But it doesn't change the fact BB ususally always beats hulk.
Ok, first of all you showed me classic hulk who isn't close to being what his current self is.Another thing... the skrullbolt was just as powerful as the original, the only thing he lacked was experience. This was proven when reed put skrullbolt into a tub and reed asked him to scream in which skrullbolt scream being so powerful that it opened up a time/space portal.
Hulk STIIL tanked that scream (which almost WRECKED the moon) and asked for more.
Like I said before, two of the people mentioned in this thread could double teaqm hulk and possibly lose.
By the way, black bolt is a natural beast, EVERYONE fears his scream. He has had sentry terrified, one shotted apocalypse with it and destroyed a city with just a whisper... took out the hulk, took out magneto, took out sphinx, gladiator etc, etc... you are seriously underating him and imo he IS high herald and could beat the best of them minus surfer (and could probably beat him as well).
No it was not as powerful as the original.
1: It was not a scream. 2: It was not as potent as the original.
Who?
IMO the only HH's he would lose to are surfer, Thor, Superman and possibly glads.
Originally posted by Damborgson👆
Black Bolt FTW 😎
Originally posted by NihilistThey are most certainly high heralds...😐
Nah their not, they are mid at best, none of them are Surfer,Thor,Genis,Sentry league.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThat my take on it 👆
[B]Could someone post the scan of Warlock commenting on the clone's strength? I don't have it on hand.If the clone is intended to be four times stronger than Thanos, then I'd argue each of the clones focused on one particular trait (Strength, magic etc.) in which they were superior to Thanos, but since it was only one specific trait, Thanos' might still rivaled their own.
I'll scan it shortly.