Blood lusted Thor vs Superman(Twist)

Originally posted by Starscream M
well, assuming they're fighting in character, taking away speed prob gives them a close 5-5 split.

if you just take away supermans speed, while making thor use his whole bag of tricks, then you're right, thor will win majority.

its not like superman used his speed in his fight against thor, and he did pretty well

In character and no speed, it would be a brawl so a split is the most likely scenario. If you believe Clark has the physical edge and it would allow him to win, Mjolnir can close the small gap.

The whole bag of tricks and no speed advantage for Clark? 8/10 for Thor at least.

Fair enough. Amusingly enough, it was Clark who was more versatile in that fight than Thor. Clark used speed to dodge Thor's first attack and did a mini blitz with the his opening attack. He then used heat vision. Thor's most versatile move was spinning Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor's most versatile move was spinning Mjolnir.

I don't think so, no.

Originally posted by Starscream M
spiderman may bounce around clark for 2 panels, by the third panel...superman would move like a blur and grab spiderman in his visorlike grip. thats how it would happen in a comic.

Haha. Then you have absolutely no idea how comics work.

Spider Man would bounce around Superman and would stay out of his reach in a comic if they were to fight. Someone being outmaneuvered by a much slower opponent happens all the time in comics. It's happened to Superman as well more than once.

As a matter of fact, Batman is apparently going to demonstrate my point next week:
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=2921&page=2

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really? Then you seem to be rubbing off on me.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're full of utter crap if you don't think that's how shit would go down in a comic if they were to fight.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you think Spider-Man bouncing around Superman in a fight is out of the question, then you must be disappointed by Clark's performances a lot.

Yeah, damn those, they totally ruin the character.

This is boring. I'll let you finish the masturbatory fantasy.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Amusingly enough, it was Clark who was more versatile in that fight than Thor.

even though clark may have less powers than thor, he makes much more use of them (speed, freeze breath, heat vision, etc)...whereas thor is unlikely to use things like antiforce or soulsuck.

so, while theoretically thor may be more versatile...I would argue that practically, superman is more versatile.

Originally posted by Philosophía
The only one rubbing one off here seems to be you.

So you're finished wanking Superman?

Originally posted by Philosophía
By Spiderman being shown to be faster than Superman? No, that would never happen. At best, he'd jump out of the way of an attack by Superman, due to his spider-sense, but he would never overwhelm Superman with his speed, like he did against Masterson Thor, for example.

Faster? I don't think so. Jumping around, dodging his attacks and such? I think that's very likely.

Masterson was suffering from one of his lack of confidence moments IIRC and that was DeFalco. His to Spider-Man what Pak is to Hulk. Great writer, huge jump up in power level. Coincidentally, his the same guy who write Firelord vs. Spider-Man.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You mean the two instances (Deathstroke/Shadowdragon) from a Superman who is nowhere near comparable in power or portrayal to the Superman of today, somehow "dissapointing me about Clark's performances a lot"?

Yeah, damn those, they totally ruin the character.

This is boring. I'll let you finish the masturbatory fantasy.

What's changed? Instead of being 300 times faster, Clark's 400 time faster? Matter's little in the context of a story.

And I'm not even referring to those two in particular. I'm simply pointing out that if you think Spider-Man jumping around Clark is something not very plausible, then you must be disappointed on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ya know, that actually may be true in a fight.

even though clark may have less powers than thor, he makes much more use of them (speed, freeze breath, heat vision, etc)...whereas thor is unlikely to use things like antiforce or soulsuck.

so, while theoretically thor may be more versatile...I would argue that practically, superman is more versatile.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ya know, that actually may be true in a fight.

even though clark may have less powers than thor, he makes much more use of them (speed, freeze breath, heat vision, etc)...whereas thor is unlikely to use things like antiforce or soulsuck.

so, while theoretically thor may be more versatile...I would argue that practically, superman is more versatile.

Eh, Thor's a step up kind of character. If Clark's advantage is too large, he'll rely on his other powers to even the odds.

Nothing theoretical about it. There about the same in physical combat. Clark relies on strength, durability and flight 95% of the time with some speed or heat vision thrown in. Thor relies on strength, durability and flight 95% with some lightning or Mjolnir tosses etc. thrown in. Basically the same. I do however think there's a bigger chance of Clark getting versatile than there is Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Eh, Thor's a step up kind of character. If Clark's advantage is too large, he'll rely on his other powers to even the odds.

Nothing theoretical about it. There about the same in physical combat. Clark relies on strength, durability and flight 95% of the time with some speed or heat vision thrown in. Thor relies on strength, durability and flight 95% with some lightning or Mjolnir tosses etc. thrown in. Basically the same. I do however think there's a bigger chance of Clark getting versatile than there is Thor.

I don't think he would either. At least not the average Thor.

Will finish this later. I have to go to bed.

In comcs there's differnece between fast characters and fast and agile characters. Didnt Spider-man dance around Wonder woman in the crossover even though she's supposed to be much faster?

Superman stomps.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=2921&page=2

If viking can do it. So can Thor. 😉

Superman beat him, though.

Thor 10/10 unless superman sundips

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman beat him, though.

Viking got the KO 😎

Thor 5.5/10

Originally posted by Damborgson
Viking got the KO 😎

With help, but I'm sure you didn't intentionally leave that out.

Originally posted by -Pr-
With help, but I'm sure you didn't intentionally leave that out.