Thor (No Hammer + Warrior's Madness) vs the Hulk

Started by carver916 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-
PIS exists on this forum, and we take bad writing in to account and average portrayals. Picking and choosing isn't a valid debating tactic.

Everything that I have named you or named for the hulk are average feats. His previous feats before merging with banner doesn't count since he received a major power up. With that said, what do we know is PIS or not if its an "average" for current hulk?

We can't call something PIS on someone that has not shown a limit yet. That's like me saying since Superman lost to Despero sundipped superman would lose as well even though sun dipped superman is more powerful.

So what are you basing as PIS for current hulk even though all of his showings during and after his amps has been off the chain and basically high end?

Originally posted by carver9
Everything that I have named you or named for the hulk are average feats. His previous feats before merging with banner doesn't count since he received a major power up. With that said, what do we know is PIS or not if its an "average" for current hulk?

We can't call something PIS on someone that has not shown a limit yet. That's like me saying since Superman lost to Despero sundipped superman would lose as well even though sun dipped superman is more powerful.

So what are you basing as PIS for current hulk even though all of his showings during and after his amps has been off the chain and basically high end?

Actually that's not what I'm talking about. At all.

Your use of Red Hulk to try and back up Hulk's feats is.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Sigh your talking about Loebforce Rulk again. 🤣 http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCelestials01300.jpg

The celestials bombarded a classic Thor and had no luck taking him down.

Thanos litterally beat Thor into the ground. Thor got back up no problem. http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Thanos/390877-97092_super.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Thanos/390901-22962_super.jpg

Plus a warrior madness/bersekrer thor has NEVER been knocked out. And not from lack of trying or anything.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsBetaRayBill07.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsAresPluto02.jpg

The madder the hulk gets the stronger he gets. Yeah well the same with Thor. The difference being he cuts loose and stops holdin back. WWH might win but it would be EASY as you put it.

I never said that it would be easy... this is thor that we are talking about here... a guy that I consider to be trans level based on his feats.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Actually that's not what I'm talking about. At all.

Your use of Red Hulk to try and back up Hulk's feats is.

Red hulk "was" a beast (key word, was) until he lost his amping ability. After losing this ability, that's when he had terrible showings. When him and banner hulk fought, he still had this ability but his power did nothing to the hulk and he basically got one shotted.

All of red hulk feats happened before his depowering.

I'm not trying to troll pr, I can explain everything that I mentioned in my post... I don't mind.

Originally posted by Nihilist
@carver I did counter. Saying being shot into space from that distnce and at that speed did not one thing to aid grey Hulks punch shows how bias Hulk fans are.

How fast was hulk going when he was shot through space?

Originally posted by carver9
Red hulk "was" a beast (key word, was) until he lost his amping ability. After losing this ability, that's when he had terrible showings. When him and banner hulk fought, he still had this ability but his power did nothing to the hulk and he basically got one shotted.

All of red hulk feats happened before his depowering.

I'm not trying to troll pr, I can explain everything that I mentioned in my post... I don't mind.

TBH, it would feel like a waste of time. No offence.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Sigh your talking about Loebforce Rulk again. 🤣 http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCelestials01300.jpg

The celestials bombarded a classic Thor and had no luck taking him down.

Thanos litterally beat Thor into the ground. Thor got back up no problem. http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Thanos/390877-97092_super.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Thanos/390901-22962_super.jpg

Plus a warrior madness/bersekrer thor has NEVER been knocked out. And not from lack of trying or anything.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsBetaRayBill07.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsAresPluto02.jpg

The madder the hulk gets the stronger he gets. Yeah well the same with Thor. The difference being he cuts loose and stops holdin back. WWH might win but it would be EASY as you put it.

you're just straight up horrible at this facepalm

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you're just straight up horrible at this facepalm
how so? 😕

Originally posted by -Pr-
TBH, it would feel like a waste of time. No offence.

Lol... that's messed up pr... I should just post it anyway for saying that. If it was anybody else, I would have did it but since you have the power, I'm going to leave it alone.

😛

Originally posted by Damborgson
how so? 😕
wait a second dont answer that I just saw what I did. 😄 I dfintely need more practice at this. 😮

Thor wins 6-8/10. He is strong enough that in a lot of scenarios he will put Banner down fast enough, and in others (if he is smart), he can either throw or punch hulk into space.

Thor for the majority, Thor can absorb all Hulk radiation or steal his life force. Thor is too damn versatile for the Hulk, if Thor is willing to kill Hulk is screwed big time.

Originally posted by carver9
Can WM Thor deliver trillions of tons in one punch? If your answer is yes, PROVE IT.

for god sake Wm thor is what 10 times stronger then regular thor and regular thor can knock hulk around without his hammer. Thats like a superman sundip. He one shots hulk. sure hulk can get stronger in time but he wont have time.

Originally posted by zeel
for god sake Wm thor is what 10 times stronger then regular thor and regular thor can knock hulk around without his hammer. Thats like a superman sundip. He one shots hulk. sure hulk can get stronger in time but he wont have time.

👆 👆 👆

Thor wins the guy is the best brawler in his weight class period.

Ah, I see, you have no counter, and were caught looking stupid, so you resort to ignoring my point, and a lame attempt at an insult.

Here, let's further illustrate your ignorance.

A 1,000 pound projectile traveling at 18,000 mph does how much damage to a planet sized target?

Well, we have meteorites hitting our planet all the time. Many of them reach impact velocities of 11 k/s or more. (Beyond the speed Hulk reached)

How much damage do these impacts cause? Often, less than 1 square mile of Earth is damaged, with a crater depth that is a few dozen feet deep at most.

Compared to the 196,939,900 square miles of surface area on Earth, and 6,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons of mass - Yea, I'd say the evidence swings far in my direction that the impact of a less than 1,000 pound object traveling at 17,500 mph had a miniscule role in the quintillions - septillions of tons of damage needed to shatter a planetary sized mass double the size of Earth.

The speed was needed to get him to his target and away from Earth, not to destroy the target - That was Hulks job. But by all means, keep up your laughable attempts to low-ball or discredit Hulks planet busting levels of strength!! lol

Especially when you consider that Hulk has displayed this level of strength on more than one occasion. Beating down an energy barrier that contained enough Energy to reverse the rotation of Earth for example.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Lmfao at this sock account trying to troll me again. To say being fired that disntance and at that speed did NOTHING to aid the power behind that punch shows denial or that you're a sock who trolls

Strange comment seeing as how this has been proven wrong on numerous occasions. Hercules seems to best Thor over and over again in this department.

Nah, Thor is decent, but not the best.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thor wins the guy is the best brawler in his weight class period.

Nah Thor is the best in his weightclass saying he is decent is beyond underating him. Herc lacks the durabilty to beat Thor in a serious brawl

People who keep quoting the claim that Thor in WM mode is 10 times stronger are ignoring some of Hulks past feats. How about Abomination?

The original Abomination was considered roughly twice Hulks strength. It's been a long while since I read the series, but I believe it was Galaxy Master who then doubled Abominations strength thinking it would be enough to put down Hulk.

When it wasn't, he then doubled Abominations strength yet again, and Hulk still surpassed him. If my memory is serving me well, then Abomination started off with 4 times Hulks strength, then was boosted to 8 times his strength.

Yet on a single page, when Hulk had enough, he easily jumped up to levels that surpassed Abomination and said something to the extent of "Doesn't matter if you're 10 times stronger, I'll just get 10 times madder!"

Not word for word, but I believe that's the gist. Point being that having 8 times Hulks strength was not enough, so why would the hyperbolic claim of "10 times" be enough to "1 shot" as many here are claiming?

Even if we are to accept the "10 times strength boost" as factual, and not a typical claim filled with hyperbole (As Asgardians are wont to do) - We still see on panel evidence that Hulk can boost to these rough levels and beyond in a short period of time when he gets ticked.

I don't believe either side "stomps." I also don't believe this is a 10/10 victory for Hulk either. Thors other powers can certainly play a role and give him some victories. But Hulks level of anger and strength can also give him the victory when coupled with his amazing ability to heal.

I'm personally torn at 5/10 for both. I can see instances where it goes either way.

Based on what? Thor himself admitted he was humbled by Herc. I seem to recall at least 2 past fights. (Probably more) Both of them ended with Thor losing.

Herc is the better brawler of the two according to on-panel evidence.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah Thor is the best in his weightclass saying he is decent is beyond underating him. Herc lacks the durabilty to beat Thor in a serious brawl