Another Crappy-American-Cops Thread.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81300548/

Summary: four officers assault a young man who had clearly given up.

The news story does it much better justice so please watch that before considering my questions at the bottom.

I'm a "cop supporter" in most circumstances. A lot of the videos on the internet that pretend to be police brutality are not really that. However, this one is.

The things that pissed me off the most about this situation were:

1. Dropping the charge from assault to "official oppression." I'm of the opinion that it should be attempted murder. You don't head stomp someone that many times and not know that death or brain damage could result. I think police should be charged one step higher when they do something wrong simply because of their position in society.
2. The bastard kicking the young dude in the nuts, from behind, towards the end of the brutality.
3. The Mayor and DA trying to keep this video under wraps from the public eye.

I must say, though, that I'm glad Channel 13 put up the Mayor's full comments on the situation. Considering they should have blackballed him for being a douche, that was admirable. Good on them for not getting into a pissing match and, instead, keeping cool heads to at least give the mayor his quote.

Anyway, let us discuss the situation: What should happen to the officers, is what they are charged with fair, and were the actions of the Federal Judge, DA, and Mayor proper?

They should all be fired.

But I'm wondering what happened up to the kid being clipped by the car. When he fell, man, they were ON him, like he was a big threat. One even had his gun out. There were 6 officers there, a lot of shit had to have gone on to warrant 6 officers on the scene. Also, I count 4 officers wearing bulletproof vests. HPD officers do not cruise around with their vests on the outside like that. Those officers, they donned their vests AFTER arriving on the scene. Something had to have happened to make them don their vests after the fact.

And on a side note, at 1:17, what's with the two cops running away?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
They should all be fired.

Agreed.

Someone should have interrupted their hate crime and asked him: "U mad, bros?" Then tased them all.

I edited.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Agreed.

Someone should have interrupted their hate crime and asked him: "U mad, bros?" Then tased them all.

I've always found challanging an officer's authority to be the best way to de-escalate a situation with them, yes...

Originally posted by inimalist
I've always found challanging an officer's authority to be the best way to de-escalate a situation with them, yes...

Have you ever been abused by law enforcement? Sounds like you have.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

But I'm wondering what happened up to the kid being clipped by the car. When he fell, man, they were ON him, like he was a big threat. One even had his gun out. There were 6 officers there, a lot of shit had to have gone on to warrant 6 officers on the scene. Also, I count 4 officers wearing bulletproof vests. HPD officers do not cruise around with their vests on the outside like that. Those officers, they donned their vests AFTER arriving on the scene. Something had to have happened to make them don their vests after the fact.

And on a side note, at 1:17, what's with the two cops running away?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Have you ever been abused by law enforcement? Sounds like you have.

define "abused", though no, I wouldn't use that term

The brother of a friend of mine was hospitalized once while walking home drunk. I imagine he was being lippy, but the story that was told (by his dad who was handcuffed in the car when the beating happened) was that the police wanted to "get him back" because he had a charge (and had served his debt to society) for assaulting an officer.

I have had to deal with cops before, while they were trampling my rights, and my conclusion was shut up or get beat. /shrug

Read the comments on the video; America is being overrun by bigoted idiots.

Probably the gayest police brutality video ever. Every single one of those kicks and punches look weak and pathetic.

They should work on that for next time they're beating a suspect.

The Cops, Police Department, Mayor, DA and the City should be sued! I'm sure this will go to trial and there will be a very large settlement. lol

The last man speaking made a good point. "They are acting like criminals instead of police officers."

And people wonder why some people have had it up to high heaven and start picking off cops. Heck, they lie too! They try to make things out much worse than they really are.

Minimum they should all be fired.

The news guy says that several cops were returned to duty "against the city's will". Who filed the charges then?

Originally posted by Deja~vu
And people wonder why some people have had it up to high heaven and start picking off cops. Heck, they lie too! They try to make things out much worse than they really are.

are you implying that this behaviour from a few individual officers justifies people in their violence against other individual police officers?

Originally posted by inimalist
are you implying that this behaviour from a few individual officers justifies people in their violence against other individual police officers?

That kind of thing happens all the time here. Many cases don't make it to court because of many reasons. Sometimes they don't even survive jail. Every wonder why?? Hmm

It also takes money to hire a lawyer and it's hard enough when you have the cops, DA, guards and judges all looking away...or making it go away. Evidence just disappears. You have witnesses in the cell besides yours? Well their word(s) aren't worth much now are they. They get torn apart in court.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
I never said that. I said, "and people wonder why....."

yes, implying that there is some obvious reason that smart people would be aware of

I certainly would wonder why, as I dont see how police brutality makes you want to be brutal to the police. I don't understand how people can think saying "they are evil, lets do the exact same evil we accuse them of to them, because that will be good" makes even an iota of sense

They should be arrested. 😬

How the **** do you get away with stomping on someones head or having 5-6 guys beat up a surrendered dude without charges being brought against you? I don't care if they're cops, thats assault.

My home town's police are soooo tazer happy. There's almost no accountability process so they can get away with whatever.

**** the police, **** the police, **** em.

Originally posted by King Kandy
My home town's police are soooo tazer happy. There's almost no accountability process so they can get away with whatever.

a leaked RCMP document said that Canadian police forces had begun relying on tazers as opposed to actually taking control of situations, basically falling back on assualting someone with a weapon, as opposed to being good at their job, if they ran into any trouble.

Originally posted by inimalist
a leaked RCMP document said that Canadian police forces had begun relying on tazers as opposed to actually taking control of situations, basically falling back on assualting someone with a weapon, as opposed to being good at their job, if they ran into any trouble.

Chinese exchange student rents apartment. Goes into his room, and the superintendent forgot that he'd sold that room, and thought someone broke in. Cops arrived, busted into the room, the chinese student hides under the blanket. They yell for him to get out... buuuut, he doesn't speak english and doesn't know what they're saying. So gets tazed for "resisting arrest".