Dr. Manhattan vs. Flash

Started by Omega Vision6 pages

Originally posted by Astner
To be fair, Dr. Manhattan has nowhere near the feats necessary to take on Flash.

Nevertheless, going by author intent I'm sure Dr. Manhattan would win.


Going by Author Intent DM is Trans/Skyfather. By feats he's Low-Mid Herald.

Well on a KMC match where should he be?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well on a KMC match where should he be?

I don't think he should be on KMC matches. There's little to debate. Based on his feats (which is what we mainly go by here) its hard to place him in any tier. I mean we know he's above Street or Meta, but I don't think there's reasonable cause to place him in Trans or above.

And most Mid Heralds and above have better feats than him, hell a lot of Low Heralds have better feats.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think he should be on KMC matches. There's little to debate. Based on his feats (which is what we mainly go by here) its hard to place him in any tier. I mean we know he's above Street or Meta, but I don't think there's reasonable cause to place him in Trans or above.

And most Mid Heralds and above have better feats than him, hell a lot of Low Heralds have better feats.

agreed if we go by author intents hes supposed to be god and his powerset is never really explored because there is no need as all limitation on his power is speculation and based on the assumption of Manhattan himself.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Going by Author Intent DM is Trans/Skyfather. By feats he's Low-Mid Herald.
can low-mid heralds create life? he stated he was able to do so

Flash could just speed steal and turn him into a statue regardless hes not keeping up with Wally in a standard forum match.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
can low-mid heralds create life? he stated he was able to do so
Mabye some can.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Going by Author Intent DM is Trans/Skyfather. By feats he's Low-Mid Herald.
hell no

by feats he's skyfather at the very least

can create virtual copies of himself with independent thought

can disintegrate both organic and inorganic things with a mere thought

can teleport planetary distances

invulnerable from physical harm

Originally posted by Starscream M
hell no

by feats he's skyfather at the very least

can create virtual copies of himself with independent thought

can disintegrate both organic and inorganic things with a mere thought

can teleport planetary distances

invulnerable from physical harm

Except we don't know how far his power goes. We know he can effortlessly implode a human being. Beyond that its a mystery as far as his power.

Manhattan.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Except we don't know how far his power goes. We know he can effortlessly implode a human being. Beyond that its a mystery as far as his power.
right...but even what he's shown, its far beyond herald

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
can low-mid heralds create life? he stated he was able to do so

Probably. Anyone with decent matter manip should be able to create life, and there are some of those in the Low-Mid Herald tiers.

Originally posted by Starscream M
right...but even what he's shown, its far beyond herald

Really? What did he do that was 'far beyond Herald'?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Probably. Anyone with decent matter manip should be able to create life, and there are some of those in the Low-Mid Herald tiers.

Really? What did he do that was 'far beyond Herald'?

I don't think he did anything beyond herald.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Probably. Anyone with decent matter manip should be able to create life, and there are some of those in the Low-Mid Herald tiers.

Really? What did he do that was 'far beyond Herald'?

what herald is completely invulnerable from physical harm?

what herald can see into the future?

what herald can disassemble organic (human) and inorganic (weapons) with a mere thought?

what herald can create carbon copies of himself?

what herald can teleport to different planets in an instant?

what herald can grow to skyscraper size?

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What herald can do all of the above?

Dr.M is skyfather at the least...I'd think he actually is higher.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I don't think he did anything beyond herald.
really...answer my response to OV then.

Just saw this:

Originally posted by Starscream M
hell no

by feats he's skyfather at the very least

can create virtual copies of himself with independent thought

can disintegrate both organic and inorganic things with a mere thought

can teleport planetary distances

invulnerable from physical harm


So can Multiple Man.

Him blowing people up without any durability feats is hardly beyond Herald or even Meta level.

Teleportation while nifty isn't a Herald+ ability, even if its intergalactic

His durability while impressive isn't Herald+ either, plenty of Heralds have replicated and surpassed his (off-panel btw) walking on the sun feat.

Edit: As to the growing huge part and the seeing the future part...there are Metas who can do those things, never mind Heralds.

Originally posted by Starscream M
really...answer my response to OV then.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just saw this:

So can Multiple Man.

Him blowing people up without any durability feats is hardly beyond Herald or even Meta level.

Teleportation while nifty isn't a Herald+ ability, even if its intergalactic

His durability while impressive isn't Herald+ either, plenty of Heralds have replicated and surpassed his (off-panel btw) walking on the sun feat.

Edit: As to the growing huge part and the seeing the future part...there are Metas who can do those things, never mind Heralds.

This.

Although I think his walking on the sun feats solidifies him as at minimum a low herald.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just saw this:

So can Multiple Man.

Him blowing people up without any durability feats is hardly beyond Herald or even Meta level.

Teleportation while nifty isn't a Herald+ ability, even if its intergalactic

His durability while impressive isn't Herald+ either, plenty of Heralds have replicated and surpassed his (off-panel btw) walking on the sun feat.

Edit: As to the growing huge part and the seeing the future part...there are Metas who can do those things, never mind Heralds.

please answer my post above and list the characters that can do what I listed

Originally posted by Starscream M
please answer my post above and list the characters that can do what I listed
Does any other character have that exact powerset? No. Do heralds have abilities like that with many of them being above and beyond what manhattan has shown?Yes,

Omega Vision & Black boltz, please list characters who can do each of the following

Originally posted by Starscream M
what herald is completely invulnerable from physical harm?

what herald can see into the future?

what herald can disassemble organic (human) and inorganic (weapons) with a mere thought?

what herald can create carbon copies of himself?

what herald can teleport to different planets in an instant?

what herald can grow to skyscraper size?

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What herald can do all of the above?

Dr.M is skyfather at the least...I'd think he actually is higher.