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Nu-uh... I will when they stop pronouncing it that way.
Anyways, as for this whole Thor mess.... ehhhhh yeah. No one said Thor isn't a skilled warrior. Of course he is. Even a street brawler is going to develop skillsets in fighting that are effective and invaluable if not refined. Thor obviously takes that principle and fact to another level altogether... not that I'm calling him a brawler but I digress.
Bottem line is that MA's in comics are a different kind of animal. If you're a non fodder character in comics noted for your skill then it's probably because that skill has been refined and developed to an uber level that can't be mirrored by people who rely on their powers.
As Wolverine once stated: Street levels have to be the best because their livelyhood depends on it.
As such, MA's in comics are going to be portrayed more skilled than guys like Herc, and Thor. It doesn't make the most sense IMO but that's how it is.
Bringing up a bunch of tough guys that Thor has fought doesn't really show him on a level of skill comparable to guys like DD.
Beating Fenris and Loki up at the same time? Yeah let me prepare to drop my jaw to the floor for that one. 🙄
For one we have Fenris who's supposed to have a lot of hype for himself but has never done anything of note in h2h but get his ass handed to him. He has virtually no skill almost non existant levels of h2h experience compared to Thor, and is not proven anywhere near as fast or agile as Thor either. Then there's Loki, who has only ever been described as a decent sword fighter, who doesn't typically engage in melee confrontations, and is once again physically outclassed by Thor to begin with.
AND THEN we have the fact that Captain America was beating on both of these guys in the same time span.... So yeah, the fact that Thor overwhelmed these two in h2h combat, while still impressive, doesn't show a level of skill on par with high tier MA's.
The fact is that Thor is a physically domineering opponent to most of the people he fights. Even if he doesn't outclass them in strength and durability, he's faster, or he's more agile, or their mindless beasts etc etc. When he does get put up against an opponent who physically outclasses him he tends to revert to mjolnir pretty damned quickly.
Guys like Cap, Daredevil, and Wolverine all have long laundry lists of taking on opponents who outclass them in EVERY. PHYSICAL. ASPECT. they bring to the game, and STILL winning in convincing fasion. We can deduce that their victory comes by way of skill because it necessarily can not be a product of anything else. 😬
Not only this but the degree of lopsidedness between these characters is at times staggering. We're talking about these MA's taking down guys who are literally 100 times stronger than they are and more durable and going down to pressure points, stun kicks etc. These guys get noted for their skill by reputation, through Marvel stats, and in performance against OTHER characters who are largely noted for an ability in skilled fighting as well.
This isn't how Thor is portrayed, he's a warrior and he has his moments, sure, but they are not bullet points that define his career. Even Spiderman's used pressure points on superhumans, doesn't make him Daredevil in skill.
And if Thor WAS near DD in skill he wouldn't be getting danced around and/or bewildered by Cap every time they fight. The first time they went toe to toe Thor equated Cap's skill to "trickery" because he couldn't keep up with it. That's not the sign of someone who is Daredevil's equal in combat.
He's skilled, but Marvel treats their MA's differently.
The difference? When Thor tries to hand to hand with Creel in spite of being superior in multiple physical aspects he still has to work for the win.
When Creel's brought down to Wolverine's level and attempts to fight him he gets blitzed and armbared in 2 panels.
There's definitely a difference in skill as portrayed by Marvel, and it's asinine to pretend that there isn't. 😐
