DE Sidious vs

Started by Letum Lettow3 pages

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Please, Bane couldn't take on Qui-Gon, much less DE Luke.
Im pretty sure qg would just die. JUST DIE. Seriously, Bane could stomp all over Maul.

Originally posted by Letum Lettow
Im pretty sure qg would just die. JUST DIE. Seriously, Bane could stomp all over Maul.
Bane's got no feats to match Maul. He wore some bugs. Big deal. Maul could do backflips.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Bane's got no feats to match Maul. He wore some bugs. Big deal. Maul could do backflips.

QFT

And as we all know backflips = WIN

Can DE Luke do backflips? If so, this debate is OVER.

Devil's advocate = me.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

We also have Kenobi's (and Yoda's) unusual method of training and preparation. Not bothering to train one half of Anakin's children,

I assume they didn't want to give away Leia's secret identity and by training her in the ways of the Force, Palpatine and Vader would quickly piece the puzzles together and know about Leia being Vader's daughter.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

waiting 19 years before external circumstances forced them to begin on Luke,

I guess they like... waited for the Force... to show them the opportune moment... like, probably.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

lieing to him about his paternity,

This is probably the most logical part. They knew that Luke was going to be the gambler and try to get his father back to the light side instead of killing him like he's supposed to. Thus lowering the chance of victory.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

Kenobi's frankly pointless sacrifice,

He became more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine. He gained the Ghost DBZ Instant Transmission technique.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

his waiting 3 years to tell him of Yoda

If he had told him about Yoda earlier than maybe Vader would have searched Luke's feelings and found out about Yoda and maybe Obi-Wan couldn't Force Ghost appear before that time. Also, the Force probably told Obi-Wan to wait for the opportune moment.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

Yoda's initial refusal to train him,

He was testing Luke. Period.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

not preventing him from going to face Vader,

He did warn Luke, but wanted Luke to make the right choice on his own, he didn't really do that but everything turned out okay right? Yoda also knew they still had a Leia trump card left.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

waiting until Yoda's a year from death to begin his training...

You can't really predict when you're a year away from death. Plus, the Force told them to do so. Probably.

All in all, we can conclude that Obi-Wan and Yoda were smart but misleaded tools of a stupid Force guide. It's the shooter that's to blame for the bullets kill. Probably.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
QFT

And as we all know backflips = WIN

Can DE Luke do backflips? If so, this debate is OVER.

By TESB, Luke was already doing some damn insane twirls.

I'm just gonna sum up everything you said there in to "They were nitwits." Which is true.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I'm just gonna sum up everything you said there in to "They were nitwits." Which is true.

It's a Jersey Star Wars thing. I remember discussing the intelligence of certain Star Wars characters with Gideon. I didn't like the "Dark Side clouding their minds" excuse for some of the stupid decisions they made.

Sure the Jedi Council saw "grave danger" in Anakin's training, but Palpatine practically mind tricked them in to doing it.

Sure they thought Palpatine was suspicious, but they forgot to take a blood sample to check for midichlorian because Palpatine tricked them.