Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Yeah, just like in Europe.
At first, I thought you were sersious.
Then, I realized that you were making a joke because UK people complain about paying $3-$5 per "litre", for petro.
I see your sarcasm and raise you an Iceland. They, apparantly, have a hydrogen fueling highway. Granted, they are the size of a quarter.
Originally posted by King Kandy
If oil prices go prohibitively high, it will probably lead to increased interest in alternative energy.
Which is a good thing, about time they filled some deserts like death valley & the sahara with solar panels. Put more money into making better less expensive batteries, and bring on them electric vehicles.
Things are starting to look grim in Libya. Gaddafi's bastards are making gains against the revolutionaries, the rest of the world is silent and according to one rebel,
"A rebel fighter in Zawiya told Reuters they were all but cut off from the rest of the world."
However, the EU has finally decided that Gaddafi is a mad man that has to go, glad to see such great progress being taken by our most excellent leaders. Wonderful to see them making such crucial debates such as a no fly zone while rebels have sighted "government forces entering the city by boat and in tanks".
Originally posted by Liberator
Things are starting to look grim in Libya. Gaddafi's bastards are making gains against the revolutionaries, the rest of the world is silent and according to one rebel,"A rebel fighter in Zawiya told Reuters they were all but cut off from the rest of the world."
hilary clinton has announced she is going to meet with rebel leaders, and british special forces were already ejected from the country during a botched mission
Originally posted by Liberator
However, the EU has finally decided that Gaddafi is a mad man that has to go, glad to see such great progress being taken by our most excellent leaders. Wonderful to see them making such crucial debates such as a no fly zone while rebels have sighted "government forces entering the city by boat and in tanks".
what would you have them do? even a no fly zone requires bombing land based anti-aircraft encampments. NATO or Western troops killing civilians in airstrikes is the last thing we need
also, what are we going to do after we sell them guns and the rebels start killing black africans who they accuse of being mercenaries, or when the tribal libyan society starts to break along those lines. This is not the west's fight, no matter how much we might want Gadaffi gone.
yes, this is a little different than what I expressed before, however, at that point I really wasn't aware of how involved of a military campaign a no-fly zone would be.
Originally posted by Robtard
They would, Xe's ties run deep into the government, they literally have a 'free pass'.
oh, you dont have to tell me
there were congressional hearings where former employees admitted the heads of the company were trying to assassinate whistle blowers
the story disappeared somehow
send troops to Mecca?
the protests in Bahrain are actually really important for SA. the leaders there are Sunni, with SA support, but the population is Shia, and more in line with Iran (errr... I suppose I wouldn't call them pro-Iran... but if we are going to reduce the region to Sunni/Shia). Bahrain borders the Eastern oil rich and shia areas of SA where there has been unrest for years, as Shia are second class citizens in SA.
if Bahrain becomes more democratic, it poses a huge threat to the wahabbi hegemony SA is trying to export to all Muslims.
but ya, to the Americans, totally terrorists
given how slow the world is to react to apparent civil war in Libya, do you guys think these dictators are going to be less hesitant to use force against their people?
at least it seems that democratic forces are still in control of the revolution in Egypt 🙂
unfortunately, Yemen appears to be deteriorating, and with Saudi intervention in Bahrain, I'm sure the Yemeni state feels it can act with impunity, protected by the Saudis and Americans, the same way they are protecting the Bahraini leaders:
look, the Americans have said, straight up, this is ok. They wont stand up to the Saudis, so there is no chance of international outrage the same as is putting pressure on Ghadaffi. Its sick, but out non-committal to democracy has proven these regimes has as long of a leash as they need to stop these revolts.
I honestly don't think we should be starting military campaigns in any of these states, but that we are so adamantly behind the Libyans rebels, but refuse to condemn the Saudis in anything close to those terms, is disgusting. period. Sure, we don't need to be involved in every conflict in the world, but we do have means by which we could pressure the Saudi royal family. Like, not selling them X35 fighter jets, or enriched uranium. ****ing ****