Arab Uprising

Started by inimalist16 pages
Originally posted by Bicnarok
In fact there are numerous tribes in N.Africa so where do we draw the line.

generally at countries considered part of the Maghrab

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghreb

(though Ive seen maps where Egypt is included in the region)

I don't actually know if there are any majority Arab states in Africa that aren't part of it

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Ok Iranians are Persian, I´m sure other people have seen 500 as well.

In fact there are numerous tribes in N.Africa so where do we draw the line.

I think the phrase like "previously undemocratic countries containing those rebelling individuals who could be anyone." has to be invented for your sake.


Great. "I'm going to senselessly generalize, because I don't feel like being specific".

I don't see why you would assume all "previously undemocratic countries" would follow the same patterns. America itself was a "previously undemocratic country".

No. Western World gives military aid in the form of national armies/weapons then it's going to end poorly.

Originally posted by King Kandy
America itself was a "previously undemocratic country".

when it was part of another nation?

Yes.

Originally posted by inimalist
when it was part of another nation?
Don't drag Mexico in to this.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Don't drag Mexico in to this.

What about Mexico?

These uprisings are doing wonders for oil prices

Finally.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
What about Mexico?
Its "illegal" annexation of the southern United States following the Nevada Border Skirmish was entirely justified, IMO. Little Mexico may not have been a democratic nation, but it did stop American aggression in to Mexico proper.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Its "illegal" annexation of the southern United States following the Nevada Border Skirmish was entirely justified, IMO. Little Mexico may not have been a democratic nation, but it did stop American aggression in to Mexico proper.

Not familiar with US history, maybe could explain what went on in a few words-

We (America) basically stole like half of Mexico's shit. They kind of owned most of the southwest. So, there were a whole lot of border clashes between Mexico and the US. That's the era where things like the alamo became famous from.

Unless Lucien is talking about something entirely different.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Not familiar with US history, maybe could explain what went on in a few words-
What Blax said. During the Mexican-American War, Mexico occupied most of the southern States, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida etc. California was the only one that resisted. The governments in charge of these occupied states were rather undemocratic in nature. Most people were sent to labor camps and forced in to servitude.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Not familiar with US history, maybe could explain what went on in a few words-

California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, Nevada and Wyoming were all Mexico, until the Gringos, specifically, President James K. Polk stole it all. In fact, the later presidents Abe Lincoln and US Grant both stated that Polk was in the wrong for instigating the war, and harshly criticized him for it.

The so-called "border wars" today between America and Mexico are--believe it or not--partial remnants of a war that happened 160 years ago.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
What Blax said. During the Mexican-American War, Mexico occupied most of the southern States, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida etc. California was the only one that resisted. The governments in charge of these occupied states were rather undemocratic in nature. Most people were sent to labor camps and forced in to servitude.

Mexico never owned Florida.

Florida was a part of New Spain until 1819 when the Adams-Onis treaty gave it to the US.

Apparently the Egyptian military is now cracking down on the latest protest against them.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Don't drag Mexico in to this.

I-I was dragging the Brits...

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Not familiar with US history, maybe could explain what went on in a few words-

Just don't watch the History channel. They advertised The Alamo as being where Texas won its independence from Mexico.

Originally posted by jaden101
Just don't watch the History channel. They advertised The Alamo as being where Texas won its independence from Mexico.


I remember a a documentary about the Battle of Wake Island that talked about how while the marines were defending Wake from the Japanese they received news that people considered their struggle to be like that of the Alamo. Knowing how that ended for the Texans the marines weren't exactly thrilled by the comparison. 😛

lol, epic fail x2