Arab Uprising

Originally posted by MRasheed
Who did he segregate based on religion?

? everyone?

Originally posted by MRasheed
In what way?

essentially: There is a fundamental difference between people who are Muslim and those of other religions. Muslims are inherently superior, thus, everyone should be a Muslim.

Originally posted by MRasheed
lol

Robtard, you know very well what I am asking you. You are being deliberately dishonest in this discussion.

Let's try again:

When Malcom X was in the NOI, he believed all whites were devils. During his trip overseas he realized how wrong that concept was and publicly repented of it. Yet you are still referring to him as a "racist @ss." Why?

A Strawman now? EPIC FAIL, bro. This:

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably because he was a racist ass. Granted, towards the end of his life he seemed to mellow-out some.

Notice how I said "seemed to mellow-out some" in regards to his later years? Pretty much implies I'm saying his point of view(s) changed.

So all you did [yet again] was call me ignorant and then proceed to restate what I said. ie "he was racist; then he changed." LOLZ, you're not so good at the debate stuff, guy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Notice how I said "seemed to mellow-out some" in regards to his later years? Pretty much implies I'm saying his point of view(s) changed.

How is that when you are still calling him a racist @ss? How is that possibly implying you are saying his views changed?

That's you still being dishonest.

Originally posted by Robtard
So all you did [yet again] was call me ignorant...

I didn't say you were ignorant.

Originally posted by Robtard
and then proceed to restate what I said. ie "he was racist; then he changed."

I just wanted to know why you had the opinion you had about the issue. I felt it would give me insight on that kind of opinion. But you seem like you are back tracking and dancing around a straight answer.

Originally posted by Robtard
LOLZ, you're not so good at the debate stuff, guy.

I wasn't aware that this was a "debate." I'm just looking for clarification.

Originally posted by inimalist
? everyone?

essentially: There is a fundamental difference between people who are Muslim and those of other religions. Muslims are inherently superior, thus, everyone should be a Muslim.

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I don't even know what to say to this.

I can't help but interpret this as you saying you don't want to talk about it with me and to buzz off.

Originally posted by MRasheed
How is that when you are still calling him a racist @ss? How is that possibly implying you are saying his views changed?

That's you still being dishonest.

I didn't say you were ignorant.

I just wanted to know why you had the opinion you had about the issue. I felt it would give me insight on that kind of opinion. But you seem like you are back tracking and dancing around a straight answer.

I wasn't aware that this was a "debate." I'm just looking for clarification.

He's dead, dude, so he can't be a racist anymore, unless a corpse can be racist. I said he was a racist ass and then he changed, obviously while still alive. Which you agree with 100%, yet implied I was ignorant on the issue and then proceeded to restate what I just said.

There was no need for you to argue with my initial post, you simply enjoy being confrontational and using the troll-tactic of saying someone is wrong and then captioning their same thoughts. Funny, it is.

Originally posted by MRasheed
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I don't even know what to say to this.

I can't help but interpret this as you saying you don't want to talk about it with me and to buzz off.

no...

you asked how he segregated people. He did so by their religious affiliations. If someone believes that people are inherently better because they belong to one faith over another, that is divisive.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's dead, dude, so he can't be a racist anymore, unless a corpse can be racist. I said he was a racist ass and then he changed, obviously while still alive.

Which you agree with 100%, yet implied I was ignorant on the issue and then proceeded to restate what I just said.

I went back a few posts to see how this started...

I was actually wanting you to espound on why you thought he was a racist @ss and somewhere it turned into something else. I apologize for offending you.

I am still interested in why you thought he was racist (back when he was in the noi).

Originally posted by inimalist
no...

you asked how he segregated people. He did so by their religious affiliations. If someone believes that people are inherently better because they belong to one faith over another, that is divisive.

So you're saying... purely by virtue of him being a Muslim... that he was a segregationalist of some type.

Originally posted by MRasheed
So you're saying... purely by virtue of him being a Muslim... that he was a segregationalist of some type.

no

Originally posted by MRasheed

I am still interested in why you thought he was racist (back when he was in the noi).

Because the NOI was a racist (and hilarious) organization and he was a part of it. Caucasians being evil creations etc.

I've not followed the NOI as it is now; hear they've calmed down a bit too.

Originally posted by inimalist
no

lol

you're killing me, inimalist. lol

Originally posted by Robtard
Because the NOI was a racist (and hilarious) organization and he was a part of it. Caucasians being evil creations etc.

The "etc." is the part I was interested in. Please continue.

Originally posted by Robtard
I've not followed the NOI as it is now; hear they've calmed down a bit too.

Nah, they're the exact same. All appearances to "tone it down" are purely politically motivated and attempts to win government funding by playing the non-profit game. Obviously you can't expect to get a check if you keep saying "Whitey is the devil."

Originally posted by MRasheed
lol

you're killing me, inimalist. lol

i don't see how anything Ive said is difficult to understand... /shrug

I'm Muslim. As a Muslim, I don't believe I am better than anyone. I do believe it makes aspects of my spiritual journey easier on me, but that doesn't mean I am better than another person. There is no evidence that Malcolm X "believes that people are inherently better because they belong to one faith over another."

why is this about you at all?

and yes, X did think there was a supremecy to Islam

Both Malcolm and I adhered to the same religion. That makes it relevant. I know what he believed.

Of all the religions, Islam is superior. "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." ~The Holy Qur'an 5:3 That doesn't mean that the believers are inherently superior. It just means they are on the right path.

Islam is the superior religion. And lack of religion is superior to Islam.

Originally posted by MRasheed
Both Malcolm and I adhered to the same religion. That makes it relevant. I know what he believed.

Of all the religions, Islam is superior. "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." ~The Holy Qur'an 5:3 That doesn't mean that the believers are inherently superior. It just means they are on the right path.

your argument is "I know better than you because I'm a muslim"?

/epic facepalm

As a Muslim, if I explain my position on certain things you are in error about, you are a fool if you dismiss it.

Interpret that however you wish.

oh, very much so, your beliefs make you an expert on the biography of every human who has ever even had remotely similar beliefs.