Originally posted by iceman24567
True but if his opponent knows of his power they can work around it not sure if its common knowledge in character not sure if he would blabber about his power like he did to Rand. Im thinking threw her body language skill she could figure out what hes doing then bash his brains in
Don't you think it'd be too late when/if she figured his power out? She doesn't get the luxury Wolverine's healing factor provides.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Cass is good, but Mr. X should take the majority over most street level martial artists in hand to hand. His powers are tailor made for that type of fight.
You could say the same for Cass and she isn't your typical street. I haven't seen most metas jump tall buildings without using a rope.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Iron Fist's drunken boxing afforded him the chance to hit Mr. X a single time, run away, and then get BFR'd. People read way too much into it. Nothing suggested he would have been able win a drawn out encounter.Without PIS or a plot device Mr. X would take Cass 10/10
I'm in agreement (well, maybe 9/10). His ability is basically a superior version of hers.
Unless she uses her under-cover getup from Justice League Elite, wherein she had a Thanagarian Shadow Field ala Shadow Thief. Then she could beat him 🙂
srankmissingnin
It happened in Outsiders. Dick and Cass fought to a stalemate and Alfred showed up in the Batmobile and broke up the fight. Their last exchange before that was years ago, Cass had the advantage but Dick was confident that he would win eventually even then.
I just checked that issue, that's not what happened.
They fought for awhile, Batgirl said "Had enough?" at one point where she had her hand on his throat, he said "Not even close," then Alfred showed up and got them to talk things out. So edge to Cassandra but Dick gave a good showing too.
There was a coin fight in the Beechen ultra-sucky Batgirl series where Dick said something to the effect that her reading isn't perfect, sooner or latter she'd make a mistake and he'd get her... but, ironically, he was missing every blow when saying this, and later when she stole a bat plane she casually brushed him aside with a kick.
The actual results seems to indicate that she's still better. Outsiders, Cass had something of an edge but he was hanging in. Beechen Batgirl, he was writing checks his skills couldn't cash and performed worse than Outsiders.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
You could say the same for Cass and she isn't your typical street. I haven't seen most metas jump tall buildings without using a rope.
unless her feats translate to combat it doesn't matter.
might as well go to CV if you want to have a frivolous Feat olympics that has nothing to do with battle.
what feats does she have that puts her above ppl he has faced and stalemated or beaten?
she only has a few ambiguous feats nothing more her running and making a whooshing sound against some fodder isnt going to help her nor is her punching power superior to the guys X has faced
Originally posted by Lestov16
Cass moves very, very fast. I think you guys are severely underestimating her abilities here.
Matter not if the person shes facing is as fast and has the single best bullet deflection feat among streets in any comic ever to back it up. She's not fast enough to bypass his powers, she can't win a h2h encounter.
Originally posted by Lestov16
She can counter his ability. That's what her father spent her entire childhood instilling in her
Originally posted by Juk3n
Matter not if the person shes facing is as fast and has the single best bullet deflection feat among streets in any comic ever to back it up. She's not fast enough to bypass his powers, she can't win a h2h encounter.
But is he fast enough to bypass hers. Their combat precog cancels each other out, just leaving pure skill in which case Cass is the better combatant