Originally posted by Starscream MOh come on. 😬 He just got rocked by ZEUS. The king of Olympus. Not many people would be alive period, let alone having trouble healing. That's not a low showing at all. That's like saying Doomsday bitchslapping Eradicator recently is a low showing for Eradicator. (maybe this personality as opposed to Kem-El/Fortress Erads, but that's another story).
that really doesn't make sense...hulk's hf can't be overtaxed by getting punched really hard
Originally posted by TricksterPriesthulk's hf has taken on much more than powerful punches...he's healed from incineration iirc
Oh come on. 😬 He just got rocked by ZEUS. The king of Olympus. Not many people would be alive period, let alone having trouble healing. That's not a low showing at all. That's like saying Doomsday bitchslapping Eradicator recently is a low showing for Eradicator. (maybe this personality as opposed to Kem-El/Fortress Erads, but that's another story).
Originally posted by Starscream MNormally, that would make sense. But this is a comic book. 😛
yes, I think getting your flesh incinerated would tax the hf more than getting rocked by powerful punches.
Nuul: that's not proven at this time. I'd rather not give the Hulk fanboys a chance to say Hulk could beat Zeus in CQC. 🙄
I'm not sure what "swamp thing level" means... hes regenerated from being destroyed in his entirety by a Celestial, though not immediately.
also:
Originally posted by inimalist
[b]DurabilityFirst, Man-Thing can't die:
[Adventure into Fear 11]:
http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/4631/fear1111.jpg
[Daredevil 114]:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8726/daredevil11417.jpg
[/B]
Originally posted by inimalist
[b]RegenerationMan-Thing shows instantaneous regeneration from gun-wounds:
[Deadpool: Merc with a Mouth 6]:
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/184/dp19legioncps024.jpg
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/3493/dp19legioncps026.jpg[Man-Thing v3 1]:
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3561/manthingv3115.jpg
[Man-Thing v2 9]:
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1052/manthingv200913.jpg
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/6933/manthingv200914.jpgRegenerates from being destroyed by a car [Man-Thing v3 1]:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1143/manthingv3106.jpg
Buried by a bulldozer [Adventure into Fear 16]:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1049/adventureintofear01616.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4761/adventureintofear01617.jpg
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/9065/adventureintofear01618.jpgExploded by multiple sticks of dynamite [Marvel Fanfare 36]:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9848/marvelfanfare3628.jpg
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1581/marvelfanfare3629.jpgRegenerates after a plane crash [Marvel Team-Up v1 68]:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9356/marvelteamup06807.jpg
From being destroyed by a fan blade [Micronauts v1 7]:
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/875/themicronautsspecialedi.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/875/themicronautsspecialedi.jpgFrom being placed in plastic bags [Man-Thing v3 6]:
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/641/manthingv3609.jpg
Regenerates “moments” after reentering the Earth's atmosphere [Man-Thing v1 14]:
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/3750/manthing1411.jpg
His regeneration is strong enough that Man-Thing is able to survive in a rain that eats organic matter [Marvel Zombies 4 3]:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9582/page013.jpg
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/8061/page014.jpgAnd while some of these feats required Man-Thing to be in a swamp, after being chemically changed in a sewage treatment plant, Man-Thing is a self-contained ecosystem, able of regenerating himself without the swamp. Theoretically, all these past feats of oozing and regeneration should be possible without the need of any extremal water or plant sources:
Man-Thing thrown in the sewage system [Man-Thing v1 17]:
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6271/manthing01720.jpg
Man-Thing is chemically changed [Man-Thing v1 18]:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4416/manthing1806.jpg
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/49/manthing1807.jpgMan-Thing is a self contained ecosystem [Man-Thing v1 19]:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2853/manthing1910.jpg [/B]
Originally posted by inimalistw/o some type of swamp/water source nearby, you really think M-T would be able to regen from Zeus' onslaught in a reasonable amount of time..?
9. Man-Thing: reforms himself no worse for wear. Forgets the event moments later😖hifty:
Originally posted by TricksterPriestNah. His regen-factor is certainly good, but I don't see him tanking anti-matter wave-esque energies any time soon. 😛
He's got swamp thing level regen?
Originally posted by Galan007
w/o some type of swamp/water source nearby, you really think M-T would be able to regen from Zeus' onslaught in a reasonable amount of time..?
Originally posted by inimalist
And while some of these feats required Man-Thing to be in a swamp, after being chemically changed in a sewage treatment plant, Man-Thing is a self-contained ecosystem, able of regenerating himself without the swamp. Theoretically, all these past feats of oozing and regeneration should be possible without the need of any extremal water or plant sources:Man-Thing thrown in the sewage system [Man-Thing v1 17]:
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6271/manthing01720.jpg
Man-Thing is chemically changed [Man-Thing v1 18]:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4416/manthing1806.jpg
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/49/manthing1807.jpgMan-Thing is a self contained ecosystem [Man-Thing v1 19]:
though, Zeus would probably count as the most powerful opponent Man-Thing has fought
EDIT: I was initially being a bit facetious, I'm not actually under the assumption that Man-Thing can hang with Skyfathers, however, looking over the fight scans, Zeus really does only punch Hulk, or hit him physically, something that has never seriously damaged Man-Thing, even when he was away from water. I might actually be serious here... though the lightning hands amp might be problematic, unfortunately there is no way to gauge what, if any, affect they have
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah I saw those scans. I guess my real question is: has M-T rapidly regenerated from significant damage (the type he'd be taking on vs. Zeus) w/o a swamp nearby, on panel?
1. Sure:
Originally posted by inimalist
Here we see Man-Thing survive a 7 story fall, while protecting an infant [Giant Sized Man-Thing 5]:http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1692/manthing13.jpg
...
Survives an avalanche [Man-Thing v2 3]:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5536/manthingv200301.jpg
http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/5237/manthingv200302.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9562/manthingv200303.jpg
2: Like I said in my edit, I don't actually think Zeus' attacks would do serious damage to MT. Not that Zeus couldn't destroy him with little effort, just that punching MT in the gut is going to have zero effect. Its more a matter of if the lightning amp he has given himself will do enough burning damage to him...
EDIT: it is almost more likely that Zeus' rage would be more harmful to MT...
EDIT 2: to back up my claim that physical assaults are not effective against MT, the cage feat showing his body maintains this consistency even in the most inhospitable conditions
Originally posted by inimalist
[b]Ooze...
Here, even after days of exposure to sub-zero temperatures on a mountain, he is able to ooze through a cage [Man-Thing v2 3]:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3103/manthingv200315.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4930/manthingv200316.jpgThe ooze makes him very difficult to harm during a fight, such as we see here against:
She-Hulk [She-Hulk v1 8]:
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/231/shehulk00813.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2665/shehulk00814.jpgBug [Micronauts v1 7]:
http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/875/themicronautsspecialedi.jpg
Thing [Marvel Two-in-One v1 1]:
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/9571/marveltwoinone00117.jpg
Iron Man [Iron Man Annual 3]:
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3722/ann00328.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/239/ann00329.jpgShang-Chi [Master of Kung Fu 19]:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6108/masterofkungfu01907.jpg[/B]
Hm, for some reason I don't think getting dropped off a 7 story building, or getting hit by an avalanche, would have harmed Hulk nearly as much as Zeus did...
😛
I dunno, I have no doubts that M-T could eventually regen from an encounter with Zeus... But w/o a swamp nearby I don't think it'd happen in a reasonable amount of time. Afaik, M-T has never encountered a being on Zeus' level, or regenerated from the type of damage that he [Zeus] would deliver, without the aid of a swamp. Could be wrong, though.
EDIT: Screw your edit(s). I ain't responding to them. pfft
Originally posted by Galan007
I dunno, I have no doubts that M-T could eventually regen from an encounter with Zeus... But w/o a swamp nearby I don't think it'd happen in a reasonable amount of time. Afaik, M-T has never encountered a being on Zeus' level, or regenerated from the type of damage that he [Zeus] would deliver, without the aid of a swamp. Could be wrong, though.
the only comparable fight would be against Thog, and its likely not a great example
I don't disagree, like I said, I was being a bit factitious, but going from the Zeus scans, he isn't doing anything that a seven story fall wouldn't.
What I mean is that the type of damage Zeus is doing wouldn't do much to MT. Same way you couldn't punch a being totally composed of energy.
for sure, there is no direct scan, but I don't see it as that large of a stretch
