Why do people keep bringing up Zeus and Thor fighting for months... Zeus didn't want to Kill thor.. he just wanted him to yield. He was playing with his food so to speak. At NO POINT was Zeus ever in any danger or hurt.. the only hurt was being put on Thor. How long it lasted was only allowed because Zeus wouldn't kill Thor.. just wanted him to give up.. which Thor wouldn't.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why do people keep bringing up Zeus and Thor fighting for months... Zeus didn't want to Kill thor.. he just wanted him to yield. He was playing with his food so to speak. At NO POINT was Zeus ever in any danger or hurt.. the only hurt was being put on Thor. How long it lasted was only allowed because Zeus wouldn't kill Thor.. just wanted him to give up.. which Thor wouldn't.
Glad you brought this up, howevere i do think that a character like thor is much more suited to deal with the likes of a skyfather then HULK. Hulk is one dimensional, hes a brick and nothing more. However this will still be a good fight im going with orion still though. there is no spite here and no stomping.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Hulk wins this convincingly
absolutely. orion rocks. he has the skill set to surpass hulk and a significant speed advantage, but current hulk is far stronger and his healing factor>>>>>>orion, especially without a motherbox. sooooo..... i've not heard anyone say how or why orion wins. 😬
Originally posted by leonidas
absolutely. orion rocks. he has the skill set to surpass hulk and a significant speed advantage, but current hulk is far stronger and his healing factor>>>>>>orion, especially without a motherbox. sooooo..... i've not heard anyone say how or why orion wins. 😬
Originally posted by passive reader
Orion is far more durable than Hulk on the onset. Orion also has a healing factor. I'd say Hulk's healing factor would be a wash. Strength wise, Orion is strong enough to stalemate a sun amped Superman while holding back. Orion can also amp his strength. And no mother box also means a big strength amp for Orion. He does not lose his skill with no mother box. He loses his temper. Hulk would get KO'd. Orion would be a blur. A super fast, martial artist, with Superman level strength. Not a good outcome for any hulk.
This sums it up quite well.
Originally posted by passive reader
Orion is far more durable than Hulk on the onset. Orion also has a healing factor. I'd say Hulk's healing factor would be a wash. Strength wise, Orion is strong enough to stalemate a sun amped Superman while holding back. Orion can also amp his strength. And no mother box also means a big strength amp for Orion. He does not lose his skill with no mother box. He loses his temper. Hulk would get KO'd. Orion would be a blur. A super fast, martial artist, with Superman level strength. Not a good outcome for any hulk.
first, an angry orion is no stronger than a regular orion. if you feel he is, you're more than welcome to prove it. what he is is more aggressive, which also means he loses is his skill advantage and simply tries to slug it out with hulk. THAT is not going to end well for any orion. he gains a kill-attitude, but that is something hulk already has. so, there goes his skill advantage, and an attitude change doesn't help him any.
post some fights where he IS a blur and we can talk. then we can talk about whether an angry orion would use it, and just how often he DOES use it.....it being his "blurring combat speed".
and..... 😑
healing is most CERTAINLY not a wash. hulk is almost never--ever--ko'd in the opening of ANY fight, and he's at his wwh levels--which is to say he was not ko'd by anyone save a SKYFATHER. in straight h2h classic hulk pretty much pwned thor who on panel, is stronger than orion and as skilled.
all that's to say there is NO chance orion ko's hulk at the outset, and as the fight progresses, hulk gains more and more of an advantage. i see absolutely no way orion wins this in a h2h fight. i wouldn't take orion in this match against classic savge hulk, let alone a hulk at wwh levels.
Originally posted by leonidas
first, an angry orion is no stronger than a regular orion. if you feel he is, you're more than welcome to prove it. what he is is more aggressive, which also means he loses is his skill advantage and simply tries to slug it out with hulk. THAT is not going to end well for any orion. he gains a kill-attitude, but that is something hulk already has. so, there goes his skill advantage, and an attitude change doesn't help him any.post some fights where he IS a blur and we can talk. then we can talk about whether an angry orion would use it, and just how often he DOES use it.....it being his "blurring combat speed".
and..... 😑
healing is most CERTAINLY not a wash. hulk is almost never--ever--ko'd in the opening of ANY fight, and he's at his wwh levels--which is to say he was not ko'd by anyone save a SKYFATHER. in straight h2h classic hulk pretty much pwned thor who on panel, is stronger than orion and as skilled.
all that's to say there is NO chance orion ko's hulk at the outset, and as the fight progresses, hulk gains more and more of an advantage. i see absolutely no way orion wins this in a h2h fight. i wouldn't take orion in this match against classic savge hulk, let alone a hulk at wwh levels.
Hard to decide who wins both characters get more powerful with rage (in Orion's case he has to tap into his inner darkness as shown when he was goaded by Darkseid in the Source).
All in all Orion at regular brawling levels can hang with his father and a Superman who shrugs off getting crashed by two colliding planets, so I give Orion a slight advantage.
Originally posted by Allankles
Hard to decide who wins both characters get more powerful with rage (in Orion's case he has to tap into his inner darkness as shown when he was goaded by Darkseid in the Source).All in all Orion at regular brawling levels can hang with his father and a Superman who shrugs off getting crashed by two colliding planets, so I give Orion a slight advantage.
Huh?
Let me use what you just did as a debating style.
Savage Hulk has hung with Thor, someone who shrugs off blast from Celestials and Odin so since Current Hulk is>>the Savage Hulk that hung with celestial tanking, Odin tanking Thor, Hulk wins the majority.
Does this sound like a good way to debate? 😕
Both orion and hulk have unlimited strength and equal healing abilities. Orion has total control when it comes to amping his strength. What they don't share is speed, intelligence and fighting skill. Orion can amp his strength faster than hulk. His base speed and reaction is almost superman level. He can amp them to no known limit. He's a tactical genius miles above those like deathstroke and batman. But most of all, his h2h skills are all but unmatched. orion wanted a challenge so He depowered himself, fought and destroyed pre crisis karate kid in h2h only. If anyone says hulk wins 1 outta 100, they are outta their minds. orion is physically everything hulk wishes he could be.
oh, and how can you say hulk is more durable? I've seen orion take a 'universe destroying blast' without serious energy. He also jumped on top of a new god tech bomb that could destroy an entire dimension and he survived. and as for speed feats, leo you have seen them yourself in his series i gave you. he can and has speed blitzed. he ran fast enough to do a sonic boom(i admit i can't remember if he used his doohickey). He caught SUPER SONIC bullets WHILE BLIND. He can blitz and absolutely overwhelm hulk with his immense base strength superiority and his trillion x martial art skill, intelligence and tactical superiority. And yes. orion without motherbox gets stronger. The MB controls the flow of astro force to his body. without it, he's skyfather level. He's equal if not superior to darkseid. which, btw he's beaten. The best way to explain it is orion with mb is like silver surfer after galactus depowerd him, orion without mb is like surfer when he worked for galactus. basically limitless power.