Originally posted by Q99
And then in Superfriends, they took away her cats.---
Oh, yea! There's also a brand new Cheetah in the latest issues of WW (who seems to be channeling Minerva, she's part of a trio of Amazon villains who are dressed in mimicry of pre-altered timeline WW villains, but isn't actually transformed). She seems like she's probably around NuWondy level.
Still doesn't really alter the equation, of course.
So no arguments about Thor being cut to ribbons by her cats? Those would have been fun.
And in regards to the fight, Thor's weather manipulation will be more than sufficient:
"Thunder and lightning are my hunting dogs......the rain is my whip......and when I must, I ride a great and terrible stead......the earthquake!" accurately describes the encompassing nature of Thor's control over the natural forces for those unfamiliar to Thor.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionPark2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionPark3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionPark4.jpgA lightning storm in Japan? It's Thor's. A hurricane off the coast of Barbados? It's Thor's. A brace of Tornadoes in Kansas? It's Thor's. All the power of the storm from all over the world flows through Thor's veins. This is one of the main reasons he can summon any storm at any time or place. Thor is much more than the physical form seen on the surface, as explained.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorAllStormsHis.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorAllStormsHis2.jpgThor controls the weather on a distant planet, causing upside down tornadoes that result in a maelstrom that blows his enemies away.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesStormDiffPlanet1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesStormDiffPlanet2.jpgThor creates a powerful storm that no one present can withstand even inside a mist that is outside the boundaries of time.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesStormInTimeMist1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesStormInTimeMist2.jpgThor creates a storm that easily disposes of the Galactic Police that leaves the like of Quasar, Captain Marvel, Moondragon etc. awestruck.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Mjolnir42.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Mjolnir43.jpgThor creates a powerful storm and commands the ocean to create a giant typhoon that defeats the Thermal Man as well as send him to the Arctic where he remained frozen.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsThermalMan3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsThermalMan4.jpgThor creates a raging funnel from the very air that traps and contains an army of dinosaurs, bi-planes and spaceships that the Avengers had their hands full with.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/GiantTornado1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/GiantTornado2.jpgThor lives up to his legend here as he tames the incredible storm that is occupying Avalan.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ControlsAvalanStorm1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ControlsAvalanStorm2.jpgThor creates a storm so powerful that even the Hulk is powerless before it.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor6fight20.jpgThor sends a storm that absolutely decimates an army of invading Frost Giants.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionStormGiants2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionStormGiants3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionStormGiants4.jpgIn a battle against the Destroyer Thor draws one of the largest storm meteorologists had ever seen in moments.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer80.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer81.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer82.jpgIn a battle against the Destroyer Thor draws one of the largest storm meteorologists had ever seen in moments.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer80.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer81.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer82.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer83.jpgThor creates a powerful storm that holds back the Living Monolith.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsLivingMonolith8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsLivingMonolith10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsLivingMonolith12.jpg
Note: The Living Monolith was extremely amped during this fight as explained here.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsLivingMonolith1.jpgThor creates a storm so powerful it blows away all the enemies attacking Asgard, reveals the path to Odin, shatters Skyscrapers like puny playthings and topples towering mountain peaks on the far distant Earth.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/AwakenOdin1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/AwakenOdin2.jpgThor creates a storm powerful enough to block and dissipate a beam that was decimating an entire planet.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsDesak5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsDesak6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsDesak7.jpgOnce more does Thor defeat Ego on his own body by using his mastery over the elements to create an incredibly powerful storm.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsEgo14.jpgThor bends a cosmic maelstrom, made up of cosmic force and stellar winds to his command and uses the power to destroy a powerful barricade.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ControlsStellarWinds1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ControlsStellarWinds2.jpg
Note These cosmic maelstroms were so powerful that not even an armada compromised of the Skrull, Badoon, Aakon, Kree could get through them.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ControlsStellarWinds3.jpg
At least, imo.
It was made clear in their very first fight that Thor only fights the Hulk hand to hand to test his strength. To see who was strongest. It's why Thor even went as far as having Odin remove Mjolnir's magic.
Hulk is possibly stronger potentially with Thor being undoubtedly more powerful. Hulk Annual 2001 had that take on their relationship which I think was fair.
Not to mention Stan Lee intended Thor to be more powerful overall to begin with. "How do you make someone stronger than the strongest man? You make him a god", iirc.
I don't think anyone can argue that Hulk could beat Thor if Thor used all of his powers and abilities against him, not based off of how Thor fares against Hulk fighting his game anyway.
It is something to be ashamed of. Even though Thor is a beast, you all are making it sound a lil to easy for Thor to drop Hulk. Besides soul suck and draining, I would still give current Hulk the edge over Thor or any other herald.
Genis used his versatility against Hulk to no avail... it didn't stop him.
Thor did good against Savage Hulk... I don't think he will do the same against Current.
Originally posted by carver9
It is something to be ashamed of. Even though Thor is a beast, you all are making it sound a lil to easy for Thor to drop Hulk. Besides soul suck and draining, I would still give current Hulk the edge over Thor or any other herald.Genis used his versatility against Hulk to no avail... it didn't stop him.
Thor did good against Savage Hulk... I don't think he will do the same against Current.
Thor's feats against much more powerful enemies beg to differ.
If you replaced Thor's rogues with Hulk's and vice versa...
It's going to be a massacre for someone jolly and green.
Originally posted by carver9
It is something to be ashamed of. Even though Thor is a beast, you all are making it sound a lil to easy for Thor to drop Hulk. Besides soul suck and draining, I would still give current Hulk the edge over Thor or any other herald.Genis used his versatility against Hulk to no avail... it didn't stop him.
Thor did good against Savage Hulk... I don't think he will do the same against Current.
Gtfo. It would easy if he felt like it. Lol.
Lol once again.
Originally posted by carver9
And anyone that disagrees... we can battlezone this.
A Hulk vs. Thor battle zone?
lmao
Your on.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's feats against much more powerful enemies beg to differ.If you replaced Thor's rogues with Hulk's and vice versa...
It's going to be a massacre for someone jolly and green.
Thor is "built" to take on more powerful people. Thor enemies are more powerful than Supes rouge but there are some that still give Supes the edge. Thor has defeated some powerful people "without" any type of amp... he is just that good and he is built to do these things BUT, that doesn't mean that he can take the Hulk... especially current.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor is "built" to take on more powerful people. Thor enemies are more powerful than Supes rouge but there are some that still give Supes the edge. Thor has defeated some powerful people "without" any type of amp... he is just that good and he is built to do these things BUT, that doesn't mean that he can take the Hulk... especially current.
So, Thor can defeat far more powerful and deadly foes than would likewise beat the Hulk....
...but Thor can't beat Hulk himself.
Yah, okay. I look forward to the battlezone; if I had the time, I would gladly teach you the errors of your ways, Carver. Guess Rage will have to see to the task. 😆
Originally posted by carver9
And how is he defeating Hulk minus bfring, soul suck, gamma drain?
I find that post amusing. How would Thor defeat Hulk ignoring this and that? 👆
How exotic do you want to get or descriptive?
And your missing one of the most obvious tactics: Energy generation, which as a whole includes lightning, energy blasts, anti-force, the God Blast etc.
Then there's weather control, which could include shit like vortexes if you don't want to get too descriptive.
I'd need to make a list tbh.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, Thor can defeat far more powerful and deadly foes than would likewise beat the Hulk.......but Thor can't beat Hulk himself.
Yah, okay. I look forward to the battlezone; if I had the time, I would gladly teach you the errors of your ways, Carver. Guess Rage will have to see to the task. 😆
I never said that Hulk would STOMP Thor... Thor could pull some wins but nothing close to the majority. Thor would need a partner.
