Iron Man vs Colossus

Started by Dum Dum Dugan13 pages
Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Obviously, if Iron Man can fly then he wins. Clearly.


Also flying is the least of Iron Man abilities that grant him the win.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
colossus was also dropped form similar height in the same arc and was knocked out.
Really?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Before that, he took Rasputin's blows, Wolverine's stabs and Kurt's repeated teleportation.
So Red was weakened?

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Also flying is the least of Iron Man abilities that grant him the win.
Tony is the better fighter though.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Really? So Red was weakened?

Yes. It was used as a pot devise through out the arc. I would not put much stock in omega red or colossus being KO that way, If you read the arc, it pretty clear that falling from great hieghts was used as a plot device to further the story. Both colossus, wolverine and omega red were all KO from falling from great hieghts in that story arc.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Even without flight, Iron Man is incredibly fast.

He gets the majority regardless.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Even without flight, Iron Man is incredibly fast.

He gets the majority regardless.

colossus is stronger and more durable, isn't he?

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Tony is the better fighter though.

I agree more or less, most certainly with the suit on.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
colossus is stronger and more durable, isn't he?

debatable to be honest.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by juggernaut74
So Red was weakened?

Yes, he was. He wasn't used to Kurt's teleportation and the torture and the fight took a tool on him.

JakeTheBank Return of the King
Originally posted by Starscream M
colossus is stronger and more durable, isn't he?

Like Dum Dum said, extremely debatable.

Not to mention, Iron Man can re-allocate his armor's power for melee purposes, and considering that's what he's limited to, he can boost physical strength and shields.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Like Dum Dum said, extremely debatable.

Not to mention, Iron Man can re-allocate his armor's power for melee purposes, and considering that's what he's limited to, he can boost physical strength and shields.

yup very true.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, he was. He wasn't used to Kurt's teleportation and the torture and the fight took a tool on him.
Didn't look that way to me. He should have been able to take more than that.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Like Dum Dum said, extremely debatable.

Not to mention, Iron Man can re-allocate his armor's power for melee purposes, and considering that's what he's limited to, he can boost physical strength and shields.

He can use those powers under the thread stipulations?

JakeTheBank Return of the King
Originally posted by juggernaut74
He can use those powers under the thread stipulations?

I don't see why not. It's considered amping, but generally most H2H/melee fights allow it unless it's specifically forbidden.

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Originally posted by Starscream M
colossus is stronger and more durable, isn't he?
He might be more durable. In that issue where Colossus and Iron Man work toghether Colossus and Tony were both knocked back from feedback from a explosion and Colossus has to help Tony to his feet.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't look that way to me. He should have been able to take more than that.

Yes and as I explained through out the arc falling from great hights was used as a plot device.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't see why not. It's considered amping, but generally most H2H/melee fights allow it unless it's specifically forbidden.
The H2H stip says no other powers are allowed.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by juggernaut74
He might be more durable. In that issue where Colossus and Iron Man work toghether Colossus and Tony were both knocked back from feedback from a explosion and Colossus has to help Tony to his feet.

this could also be becuase colossus wieghts much more then Tony.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't look that way to me. He should have been able to take more than that.

With weakened HF, no experience at all with NC's 'ports and without his armor? Not really.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
With weakened HF, no experience at all with NC's 'ports and without his armor? Not really.
Was there any mention of any of that? He was tanking shots from Colossus and Logan like they were flies.