Originally posted by TheTyrant
Tell me where I was wrong then.What do you mean is he sure about that? It's right there on panel that he destroyed over 98% of the multi-verse whereas Imperiex Prime failed to destroy a single universe universe during his arc. I'm aware that he had destroyed like two universes before, but those were under unknown circumstances and there probably was very weak to zero resistence against him in the previous universes.
Who had the most powerful opposition? Chaos King by faaaar. Who destroyed more? Chaos King by faaaar.
OWAW Secret Files and Origins. Imperiex destroys one Universe on panel.
Originally posted by rotiartFair enough.Boredom sucks after all.
Actually I was cresting conversation for the heck of it...
Originally posted by rotiart
But in marvel when the universe was created the first beings to spring into being were eternity death oblivion and eternity...Everything else came after them...
As a result, the fall of the Chaos King and being reduced to a mere Godling.
Originally posted by rotiart
The forebears of each divinity tends to have a "first mover" so to claim that the first is toaa is a claim just as it is that he isn't
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/OriginOfMU1.jpg?t=1303176334
Just wondering.What do you think will happen if the First Mover(TOAA) didn't bring orbit,organization,and order to the Universe/Multiverse?
Originally posted by rotiart
And I am saying thy the chaos king is NOT the darkeness itself. He is the abstract being that comes forth from And represents that idea jut like death law order hate etc represent theirs...
Just asking.So you're saying the Chaos King is not the Darkness but represents the "Darkness"?Your post makes no sense what so ever at all.That's like saying Death isn't Death but represents "Death".Is that what you're trying to say 😬 ?
Uh. What? He said that 98% of the multiverse was wiped out... Based upon what did he based that? Looking up at te sky and declaring... Yes! I looked up and by the fact that I looked up at the sky i know that 98% of the multiverse was wiped out?
I was looking more for a... "cho retains some of the godliness" in him vein of proof... I know what he said... Just looking for the basis of how he knew. Is there something else other than the 98% wiped out statement?
Battle? :-P I haven't bought a new comic since the new year... Did it happen recently?
I remember cho being described to have a hypermind doing massive calculations... I don't remember any mention of godliness... Are you talking about that mini during the search for Hercules cause I don't remember itentiomed in there either...
And cho commented with banner how they were using banners tech to scour the multiverse to find hercules...
Offhand no. I'm not sure what you are referencing. :-)
Originally posted by rotiart
He did? I thought he transferred all of it? Where did it say that?
Actually that was stated in the TPB of Chaos War.A friend of mine told me.The TPB has Bonuses like explanation to what was transpiring in Chaos War and even has a list if you want to collect the entire Incredible Hercules volume.He told me about Cho retaining some of his Godly powers.It cost $19.99.I don't know if I can still pick up the TPB.I already have the 1-5 issues.
The First Mover IS the One-Above-All, for all intents and purposes. The Creator-being who brought forth existence from primordial chaos may have different names throughout the cosmos, but there is only one.
And, uh, Cho DID retain some of his godly powers, according to Marvel, so, like...
And as for Imperiex Prime...I'm sorry, but I really don't know who he is.
Originally posted by Igniz
The story of Marvel's creation Event.In the beginning was the Void,Darkness and Chaos(w/c Chaos King represents).This means there was no Multiverse in the beginning.And Chaos King was the only thing in existence.TOAA started the creation event that ended the Void,Darkness and Chaos that spawned the Multiverse.Herc stated that Chaos King was once the Universe itself in Chaos War#1.http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKDescribedbyHerc.jpg?t=1303108728
Take note that Universes within the Multiverse are sometimes referred to as "Dimensions" in the point of view of some characters within a story.As a result, the Multiverse ends up being referred to as a Universe.As seen here.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73437/1743728-dimensionsuniverses_super.jpg
Hope this answers your question🙂
Each universe is basically a separate dimension of the main universe? So, does this mean there's no "normal Eternity", that there's only different aspects of the one, true Eternity in each dimension? The exact same character, in other words?
But what about the What If's where they've been erased by the Ultimate Nullifier? Erase 616 Eternity = erasing The Multiverse/Multi-Eternity, or so it's been argued. If that's the case, what, exactly, are the "other" Eternity's within each dimension?
Originally posted by Igniz
Fair enough.Boredom sucks after all.As a result, the fall of the Chaos King and being reduced to a mere Godling.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/OriginOfMU1.jpg?t=1303176334
Just wondering.What do you think will happen if the First Mover(TOAA) didn't bring orbit,organization,and order to the Universe/Multiverse?
Just asking.So you're saying the Chaos King is not the Darkness but represents the "Darkness"?Your post makes no sense what so ever at all.That's like saying Death isn't Death but represents "Death".Is that what you're trying to say 😬 ?
What's so difficult to understand? Eternity is all of time but his mantle can be taken from him by thanos.
Maelstrom took the anomoly title.
Etc etc... It was even stated that it is possible to enter a universe where an ideal hasn't been assumed yet and take control of it.. Just like how maelstrom also tried to assume oblivions place in the cosmos...
That's my point anyways. And at the end of the chaos war saga (going off memory) athena refers to Hercules as becoming the new creator of all things and that Zeus was the prior. At the end of the chaos war issues iirc.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol are you using Amadeus Cho's statement as gospel here?I guess I forgot how Cho majored in Multiversal Awareness...
Originally posted by rotiart
Uh. What? He said that 98% of the multiverse was wiped out... Based upon what did he based that? Looking up at te sky and declaring... Yes! I looked up and by the fact that I looked up at the sky i know that 98% of the multiverse was wiped out?I was looking more for a... "cho retains some of the godliness" in him vein of proof... I know what he said... Just looking for the basis of how he knew. Is there something else other than the 98% wiped out statement?
Wtf? Are you saying that ON-PANEL statements are not to be taken for granted? So basically the writers had the character state something for no reason? Nice logic there.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
OWAW Secret Files and Origins. Imperiex destroys one Universe on panel.
Like I said, he didn't fight anybody of significance. And when he fought people of significance in the 'real' universe (jokes compared to the people who Chaos King fought btw), he lost and came to the realization that it was he who was the useless and imperfect being in the universe.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Wtf? Are you saying that ON-PANEL statements are not to be taken for granted? So basically the writers had the character state something for no reason? Nice logic there.Like I said, he didn't fight anybody of significance. And when he fought people of significance in the 'real' universe (jokes compared to the people who Chaos King fought btw), he lost and came to the realization that it was he who was the useless and imperfect being in the universe.
Did that happen because a character stated it on panel?
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Wtf? Are you saying that ON-PANEL statements are not to be taken for granted? So basically the writers had the character state something for no reason? Nice logic there.Like I said, he didn't fight anybody of significance. And when he fought people of significance in the 'real' universe (jokes compared to the people who Chaos King fought btw), he lost and came to the realization that it was he who was the useless and imperfect being in the universe.
Narration is not the same as a character speaking.
I just don't understand. Okay, according to the gods of Zenn-La, the single Creator they call the "First Mover" (God) created the Universe from a void of chaos and darkness; according to the Shinto myths, Izanagi and Izanami (Gaea) did, and managed to banish Mikaboshi to Yomi. Which of the Creation myths is true isn't the point here, though. The point is: Why COULDN'T Earth's combined gods and mightiest Skyfathers stop Mikaboshi like they did before with their acts of creation? Couldn't they just create some more with their own powers to replace/restore whatever Mikaboshi had destroyed?
True, the Chaos King had absorbed half of reality at least when he assailed Earth, along with many deities besides, but nevertheless, he was near becoming the Void again - but still not as absolute or powerful as he was before. How could Earth's gods defeat him eons before at the HEIGHT of his power as the "perfect" Primordial Void, with the Kami besting him and even sealing him completely in a netherworld, but the Council of Skyfathers get so easily slaughtered in their own realms (where their powers are greatest) when Mikaboshi was still incomplete in power himself?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Spider-Man said Sentry stalemated Galactus.Did that happen because a character stated it on panel?
Yup. There was no reason for Spiderman to exaggerate or lie.
Also:
Originally posted by Mindset
X-man backed up the statement in a later comic, iirc.
So you know it happened.
Originally posted by rotiart
Narration is not the same as a character speaking.
A character wouldn't say something for no reason. That'd be retarded.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
A character wouldn't say something for no reason. That'd be retarded.
Like thanos declaring himself god when he had the cosmic cube but... Wasn't?
Or hulk saying he is the strongest one there is... ?
Or wolverine saying he is the best tree is at what he does and then getting beat up?
Or spiderman telling people he could actually control spiders?
Or spiderman saying that sentry had stalemated galactus?
Or reed declaring he had made a technology such that no skrull could be detected by it... And then later was able to?
Tony stark declaring himself free and clear of booze... And then drinking issues later?
Eternity actually saying he should have control of the infinity gauntlet becausen is he not all that is in this reality... And yet with the ig was not the supreme being compared to thanos...
Runner declarin himself the speediest thing in all the cosmos and losing in a race.
