Imperiex Prime vs Chaos King

Originally posted by Falamu
I just don't understand. Okay, according to the gods of Zenn-La, the single Creator they call the "First Mover" (God) created the Universe from a void of chaos and darkness; according to the Shinto myths, Izanagi and Izanami (Gaea) did, and managed to banish Mikaboshi to Yomi. Which of the Creation myths is true isn't the point here, though. The point is: Why COULDN'T Earth's combined gods and mightiest Skyfathers stop Mikaboshi like they did before with their acts of creation? Couldn't they just create some more with their own powers to replace/restore whatever Mikaboshi had destroyed?

True, the Chaos King had absorbed half of reality at least when he assailed Earth, along with many deities besides, but nevertheless, he was near becoming the Void again - but still not as absolute or powerful as he was before. How could Earth's gods defeat him eons before at the HEIGHT of his power as the "perfect" Primordial Void, with the Kami besting him and even sealing him completely in a netherworld, but the Council of Skyfathers get so easily slaughtered in their own realms (where their powers are greatest) when Mikaboshi was still incomplete in power himself?

The Izanagi and Izanami creation story was brought up by the people of Japan who established Shintoism.The TOAA story is the authentic one.Since the creation Myth of Izanagi and Izanami is based on legend and belief by Japanese in their Gods.TOAA starting creation was way before the time of the Council Elite.Or should I say, way before the time of the Shinto Gods.By the time of the Council Eltie.The acts of creation done by Godlings annoyed the Chaos King.

Originally posted by cdtm
Each universe is basically a separate dimension of the main universe? So, does this mean there's no "normal Eternity", that there's only different aspects of the one, true Eternity in each dimension? The exact same character, in other words?

But what about the What If's where they've been erased by the Ultimate Nullifier? Erase 616 Eternity = erasing The Multiverse/Multi-Eternity, or so it's been argued. If that's the case, what, exactly, are the "other" Eternity's within each dimension?

The Dormammu incident had special circumstances that allowed him to defeat 616 Eternity.After defeating 616 Eternity, he bathed in 616 Eternity's blood.One could say 616 Eternity's blood acted kind a like a portal for Dormammu to get inside Multi-Eternity/True Eternity to reshape the Multiverse.Just think of this.616 Eternity and the other Eternities each represents a Universe and each would also represent Multi-Eternity.And in turn, Multi-Eternity represents the Multiverse.Kinda like this.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9504/fantasticfourannual2001.jpg

The universe has blood?

Originally posted by Igniz
The Izanagi and Izanami creation story was brought up by the people of Japan who established Shintoism.The TOAA story is the authentic one.Since the creation Myth of Izanagi and Izanami is based on legend and belief by Japanese in their Gods.TOAA starting creation was way before the time of the Council Elite.Or should I say, way before the time of the Shinto Gods.By the time of the Council Eltie.The acts of creation done by Godlings annoyed the Chaos King.

Well, I think the creation myths may have SOME truth in them - at least the part where Izanagi and Izanami dipping the Spear of Heaven into the void and forming the isles of Japan. But why didn't TOAA go and take on the Chaos King? Or at least send the Living Tribunal in to do some damage...the One-Above-All has long since cherished Earth since its olden days - surely it is not the One's will for Earth to, like, perish and fade into darkness and chaos...?

Chaos King no contest.

.... When the heck did TOAA actually ever declare earth was his favorite..
I'd love to see where you are pulling this from.

Originally posted by Mindset
X-man backed up the statement in a later comic, iirc.

And more to the point, do we then use this vague "backed" statement to declare that Sentry is = Galactus?

Because the Chaos King=Multiversal cuz Cho says is about as strong as the Spider-Man-Sentry statement is.

Originally posted by Falamu
Well, I think the creation myths may have SOME truth in them - at least the part where Izanagi and Izanami dipping the Spear of Heaven into the void and forming the isles of Japan. But why didn't TOAA go and take on the Chaos King? Or at least send the Living Tribunal in to do some damage...the One-Above-All has long since cherished Earth since its olden days - surely it is not the One's will for Earth to, like, perish and fade into darkness and chaos...?

Although I was asked in the past why Living Tribunal didn't intervene, and I clearly see LT has the power to stop the Chaos King.3 reasons stands out as to why LT didn't intervene.

1.Athena stated in Chaos War#4 that even if the Chaos King succeeded in his mission to end all things, another creation event will happen.Hence Athena's own words "existence can try again and get it right this time!"Because of those reasons, LT would have a reason not to intervene.

2.The fact the Chaos King is Eternity's dark half earns him a place in Living Tribunal's faces.And if Living Tribunal fights the Chaos King, he ends up slapping one of his faces in the process.

3.Living Tribunal's faces must agree on a verdict.We already know Eternity's verdict.Infinity's verdict would be the same as Eternity.Death would probably vote on moving against the Chaos King.Oblivion's verdict would be the same as Eternity.Galactus is already obvious.So its fairly obvious LT wouldn't intervene to stop the Chaos King.This would earn CK a sort of diplomatic immunity.Or is it a Multiversal Immunity?Meaning LT can't arrest CK.

Originally posted by rotiart
Like thanos declaring himself god when he had the cosmic cube but... Wasn't?
Or hulk saying he is the strongest one there is... ?
Or wolverine saying he is the best tree is at what he does and then getting beat up?
Or spiderman telling people he could actually control spiders?
Or spiderman saying that sentry had stalemated galactus?
Or reed declaring he had made a technology such that no skrull could be detected by it... And then later was able to?
Tony stark declaring himself free and clear of booze... And then drinking issues later?

Eternity actually saying he should have control of the infinity gauntlet becausen is he not all that is in this reality... And yet with the ig was not the supreme being compared to thanos...

Runner declarin himself the speediest thing in all the cosmos and losing in a race.

There is a big difference between exposing the plot/giving detail to what is happening and simply talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
There is a big difference between exposing the plot/giving detail to what is happening and simply talking out of your ass.

Do tell

Originally posted by TheTyrant
talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Did he give specifics?

And more to the point, do we then use this vague "backed" statement to declare that Sentry is = Galactus?

Because the Chaos King=Multiversal cuz Cho says is about as strong as the Spider-Man-Sentry statement is.

At the time when they fought he was.

So they're both true is what you're saying.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nope, didn't need to.

At the time when they fought he was.

So they're both true is what you're saying.

That idiotic statement is the only teensy scrap of evidence that would even suggest something like that.

Except for the time he stalemated him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except for the time he stalemated him.

But at this point you're clearly just trolling like usual so whatever.

You don't know what hearsay means.

Spiderman and X-man were both witnesses to Sentry fighting Galactus.

Originally posted by Mindset
You don't know what hearsay means.

Spiderman and X-man were both witnesses to Sentry fighting Galactus.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Spider-Man's statement is the definition of hearsay.

Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman said someone told him about Sentry fighting Galactus, he didn't actually witness it?

Unless Sentry fought Galactus on Earth, which seems unlikely because that would mean there was another Galactus Event on Earth that has for some reason not been documented in other comics.

Spiderman was in space fighting Omega.

It wouldn't have had to been on Earth.

Spiderman stated it as if he actually saw it.