Originally posted by kakuzu
Read older Marvel comics they exlain all that stuff I had forgotten about taht so technically he would be the multiverse in which Living tribunal should have been put in this and more celestials.
Originally posted by kakuzu
Reread the comic, I think was it Lex who said that about him? I remember that being stated, not something you can make up lol, DD would have came back whats more it didn't even destroy him fully.What I'm saying your implying is that your saying be defeating a villain as easy as Doomsday makes him able to defeat a Chaos king a guy the entire universe has to come together to beat.. We shouldn't even be having this debate there is no comparison in power lol, No comparison in feats, this isn't a fight or anything unless you really never heard of chaos king and your favorite character happens to be IP lol
Okay. You were the one who brought up Doomsday first, not me, it was you who implied that Doomsday was a threat to Imperiex Prime and attempted to use him to invalidate Imperiex's status..somehow.
No comparison? Lol. CK supporters have flimsy evidence that CK might have consumed 98% of the 616 Universe, whereas Imperiex's power was explicitly stated as being sufficient to reset the Universe. And if you ask Galan he can provide evidence of Imperiex's multiversality.
Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
Didn't you read the "All existence, even the universe that Galactus originates from" comment he said during that interview?FVL said All Existence.Not just Galan's Universe.But every Universe(Multiverse).CK preceded all existence.
Originally posted by bbrem123
LT wasnt involved cuz it was all natural events
Or because all his faces can't agree on a verdict.Eternity and Infinity represents the Necessity face and Death and Oblivion represents the Vengeance face while Galactus represents the Equity face.Eternity already stated he doesn't want to fight CK.That means the Necessity face said "No I wont move against him" comment.While the Vengeance face could be undecided.I could Imagine Death would have probably voted on moving against CK while Oblivion doesn't want to.The only face that would probably vote against CK is the equity face since Galactus already stated he only sanctions hunger not pointless destruction.
Originally posted by Igniz
Or because all his faces can't agree on a verdict.Eternity and Infinity represents the Necessity face and Death and Oblivion represents the Vengeance face while Galactus represents the Equity face.Eternity already stated he doesn't want to fight CK.That means the Necessity face said "No I wont move against him" comment.While the Vengeance face could be undecided.I could Imagine Death would have probably voted on moving against CK while Oblivion doesn't want to.The only face that would probably vote against CK is the equity face since Galactus already stated he only sanctions hunger not pointless destruction.
if u think about the IG too...LT wouldnt do anything cuz its just survival of the fittest...even when eternity cried about it
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm really not sure what you're saying here, sounds like gibberish.I only remember Lex Luthor cloning him, I don't recall anything about Lex discussing his eventual return.
Okay. You were the one who brought up Doomsday first, not me, it was you who implied that Doomsday was a threat to Imperiex Prime and attempted to use him to invalidate Imperiex's status..somehow.
No comparison? Lol. CK supporters have flimsy evidence that CK might have consumed 98% of the 616 Universe, whereas Imperiex's power was explicitly stated as being sufficient to reset the Universe. And if you ask Galan he can provide evidence of Imperiex's multiversality.
That still doesn't make him Multiversal. Mordru from DC comics also preceded all existence, but he's still not a Multiversal character.
1.If you count that as gibberish your possibly retarded or can't read its all good.
2. I brought him up because I was bring every other person he fought besides heroes like how you brought up darkseid. So it doesn't matter he still looses.
3.You the one IP fanboy on here who doesn't read the comics fully shows he didn't have that poewr wasn't he suppose to destroy the sun or something to destroy the universe? If he had that type of power he would have just reset it, he didn't have that power, he was going to mess something up and let it reset lol, learn to read the comics not the picture maybe just maybe you'll get the idea of the comic fanboy. There is no flimsy evidence when we've seen him already absorbs two omnipotent beings and there dimensions... What has imperiex done again so amazing that prove he wins? Your not even saying he wins your just arguing for the fun of it.
Originally posted by bbrem123I think its a waste of time and logic isn't getting through to him. Proof has been shown and the fact Imperiex is nothing to CK he still just argues I think its just a waste of time now.
thing is it says he was all of existence...biggg differenceand there is plenty of proof you just decide to ignore it...u say there is flimsy evidence when there is no evidence to prove it was only 616
Originally posted by kakuzu
So you never heard of CK Apparently then right?He will easily kill and absorb him simple as that, If he can do it to Satan, Night mare all of Silver Surfers gods he can do it to LIttle IP lol. What aren't you not understanding about this?
🤣 Sad to say I've read about CK, and sending him into another continuum and then he DIDN'T even realize what had happened when he was thrown there by Hercules was a hilarious way to end it for a supposed threat like the Chaos King!! A terrible event all around, at the best he could hope for is a stalemate, which I don't see happening!
Originally posted by Omega Vision
That still doesn't make him Multiversal. Mordru from DC comics also preceded all existence, but he's still not a Multiversal character.
Except CK was stated as an abstract who are 1 of the guys that are defined against Eternity like Oblivion,Death and Abraxas.The end of all things.The Nil Star according to the Gods of Zenn-la.
Originally posted by kevdude
🤣 Sad to say I've read about CK, and sending him into another continuum and then he DIDN'T even realize what had happened when he was thrown there by Hercules was a hilarious way to end it for a supposed threat like the Chaos King!! A terrible event all around, at the best he could hope for is a stalemate, which I don't see happening!
At least CK got what he actually wanted.The taglines in CW#5 was CK triumphant or the Universe dies and everybody wins, huh?Even Amadeus stated that they let CK win by sending him to the Continuum.Its not an actual defeat on the part of CK since he was never portrayed struggling or trying to get out of the Continuum.Besides, what would you propose for Herc and the Gang on how to defeat CK?CK already scared Death(or Multi-Death).That rules out killing CK since Death(or Multi-Death) has no Jurisdiction over CK.
Originally posted by Igniz
At least CK got what he actually wanted.The taglines in CW#5 was CK triumphant or the Universe dies and everybody wins, huh?Even Amadeus stated that they let CK win by sending him to the Continuum.Its not an actual defeat on the part of CK since he was never portrayed struggling or trying to get out of the Continuum.Besides, what would you propose for Herc and the Gang on how to defeat CK?CK already scared Death(or Multi-Death).That rules out killing CK since Death(or Multi-Death) has no Jurisdiction over CK.
Still not getting it??? Imperiex Prime is beyond these types of abstracts, they mean nothing to him. How is it not a defeat by being thrown somewhere else and then sealed away in the continuum, then foolishly forgetting what happened only mere seconds ago?? At least Imperiex actually hollowed the entire universe at the end.. What a joke Chaos King turned out to be. 🤣
Originally posted by TheTyrantThere is a scan somewhere of the Beyonder(at this point he was omnipresent and omnipotent)saying that the 616 universe has so many different dimensions and pocket universes that it, in of itself, is a multiverse. Therefore it could have meant just 616 that he destroyed or the actual multiverse.
So the writers had Cho, one of the smartest characters in Marvel, randomly make a comment about the multi-verse being destroyed for no particular reason? And don't ignore the rest of my post; zen-laian gods from an alt reality fought against Mikaboshi.
Originally posted by bagsikdangal101Dude 😐. Just because he predated all existance does not in any way mean he was more powerful then all existance or even more then universal. He was just really, really old.
Not to mention FVL really supports that argument with the interview given to him.http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/articles/chaos_war_interview
quote:
CosmicBookNews: Can you tell us a bit about the Chaos King? With the Silver Surfer and Galactus involved, he must pose a pretty big threat, more so than we have seen of him as Mikaboshi? (Chaos King being Mikaboshi‘s true form finally revealed?) Galactus is said to be from before the Big Bang. Does the Chaos King predate that and is that why Galactus takes notice?Fred Van Lente: Yes, you are correct – According to Japanese mythology, Amatsu-Mikaboshi is the Void that pre-dated all existence. All existence, even the universe that Galactus originates from. In his original, Terran form, he laid waste to Olympus and killed Zeus in the ARES mini-series.
Notice the words All Existence.This makes CK multiversal.
Also I love how people are using CK destroying part of the universe as a quantifiable feat.
Even if he did destroy 98% of the whole multiverse, that doesn't mean he could beat IP. The universe is a fragail place. I mean a bomb triggered by a herald(black bolt) broke reality into another universe.
Combat feats are the only quantifiable things you should use. Because whether or not destroying 98% of the multiverse could beat IP is speculation. Nothing to compare it to. Comparing combat feats definitly works.
And as far as combat feats CK's best feat by far is beating galactus.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Also I love how people are using CK destroying part of the universe as a quantifiable feat.Even if he did destroy 98% of the whole multiverse, that doesn't mean he could beat IP. The universe is a fragail place. I mean a bomb triggered by a herald(black bolt) broke reality into another universe.
Combat feats are the only quantifiable things you should use. Because whether or not destroying 98% of the multiverse could beat IP is speculation. Nothing to compare it to. Comparing combat feats definitly works.
And as far as combat feats CK's best feat by far is beating galactus.
That is very true.
Originally posted by kevdude
Still not getting it??? Imperiex Prime is beyond these types of abstracts, they mean nothing to him. How is it not a defeat by being thrown somewhere else and then sealed away in the continuum, then foolishly forgetting what happened only mere seconds ago?? At least Imperiex actually hollowed the entire universe at the end.. What a joke Chaos King turned out to be. 🤣
And yet IP was trapped in warworld sent into the temporal boom tube by Superman into the past exactly fourteen billion years.Its not a defeat if Ck actually liked it there.That means he got what he always wanted in the end to be the Void,Darkness and Chaos.Not to mention Hercules was empowered by the Embodiments of creation courtesy of the Dead X-men for awakening these primordial beings(who were stated to be linked to the infinite) that he was able to go toe to toe with CK.Not to mention the Continuum you mentioned could be opened by any Galactus Level being who is stupid enough to disturb CK.Galactus was capable of Opening the Continuum.So Galactus had a part in sending CK into it.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Dude 😐. Just because he predated all existance does not in any way mean he was more powerful then all existance or even more then universal. He was just really, really old.
I wonder why people are avoiding Eternity's statements of the Chaos King being an abstract in Chaos War#2?
Eternity:"If I fight him, I fight myself."
If I remember correctly, Eternity has a Multiversal form.One could say Chaos King is Multi-Eternity's dark half as well.
Originally posted by IgnizChaos king is obviously abstract.
I wonder why people are avoiding Eternity's statements of the Chaos King being an abstract in Chaos War#2?Eternity:"If I fight him, I fight myself."
If I remember correctly, Eternity has a Multiversal form.One could say Chaos King is Multi-Eternity's dark half as well.
And we know there is a multi eternity. But to say there is a multi-chaos King is or CK is the opposite of the multi eternity is 100% speculation with no proof.