Imperiex Prime vs Chaos King

Originally posted by kevdude
🤣 Sad to say I've read about CK, and sending him into another continuum and then he DIDN'T even realize what had happened when he was thrown there by Hercules was a hilarious way to end it for a supposed threat like the Chaos King!! A terrible event all around, at the best he could hope for is a stalemate, which I don't see happening!

Originally posted by kakuzu
You said its sad like he didn't get 98 percent of the multi verse how far did IP get? Oh yeah he got bunch by a bunch of normal super heroes who didn't have to become omnipotent lol. Yeah that sad you guys lost by trying to destroy a sun fanboy. You can call it terrible but I'm pretty sure it sold more than IP event lol if you can even call it an event right? Since you trying to say all these nasty things about CK means you admit defeat and have to just say how terrible the character is because you can't prove how IP is important or how he wins.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He wins by shooting CK with a shitload of entropy.

Yep shooting him with an abstract he can absorb you related to Joseph loeb by any chance?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Chaos king is obviously abstract.

And we know there is a multi eternity. But to say there is a multi-chaos King is or CK is the opposite of the multi eternity is 100% speculation with no proof.

We don't see any other Chaos King from an alternate reality/universe.And with backing from Eternity's statement that he is an Abstract.This would put him in a Multiversal Category.There is only one Abraxas.Which puts him in a Multiversal Category.There is only one LT.Which puts him in a Multiversal Category.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He was brought in to fight Trans Level probes. When the real IP showed up he just casually perma killed DD, a being who was supposedly unkillable.

Lulz again.

Trans level probes...surely you jest.. next your going to tell me these probes could hang with Thanos and DS... Ooo wait they would get one shot...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Also I love how people are using CK destroying part of the universe as a quantifiable feat.

Even if he did destroy 98% of the whole multiverse, that doesn't mean he could beat IP. The universe is a fragail place. I mean a bomb triggered by a herald(black bolt) broke reality into another universe.

Combat feats are the only quantifiable things you should use. Because whether or not destroying 98% of the multiverse could beat IP is speculation. Nothing to compare it to. Comparing combat feats definitly works.

And as far as combat feats CK's best feat by far is beating galactus.

What exactly are Imperiex Prime's best quantifiable combat feats that you're comparing here?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Trans level probes...surely you jest.. next your going to tell me these probes could hang with Thanos and DS... Ooo wait they would get one shot...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Chaos King's best combat feat is kicking the ever-loving crap out of God of Heroes Hercules who restored, at the very least, the entire 616 universe instantly when he was near death.

What exactly are Imperiex Prime's best quantifiable combat feats that you're comparing here?

I'm not comparing anything. I'm just telling people to stop using that feat in debates. Because just because it destroyed reality(which heralds have done on numerous occasions) doesn't mean its enough to beat someone. As you don't know how much power was used and how it would affect the person.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Once again thats unquantifiable. Because while it is impressive, who knows how much power was needed to restore the universe? There is no way to prove if it is enough to beat imperiex.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
over

People don't seem to understand this. Restoring the universe, destroying part of the universe, or shaking the multiverse, its all unquantifiable. Combat feats are the only things that are quantifiable.

^ sam

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Why because you know i'm right?

People don't seem to understand this. Restoring the universe, destroying part of the universe, or shaking the multiverse, its all unquantifiable. Combat feats are the only things that are quantifiable.

You're half right. Sure when coming into a vs thread it's ideal to have combat feats to get a general idea of how powerful each character is. But if they never a) fought each other or b) fought a common opponent, then "power output" feats like multiverse shaking or universe restoring come into play.

In the CK's case, he :

1) made Death flee
2) kicked Super God Herc, Galactus, and entire PANTHEONS (both Gods and Demons) asses
3) absorbed 98% of the multiverse

I don't know what combat feats IP has but if it's true he was beaten by high heralds and trans tiers and his highest on panel feat was galaxy busting, he dies horribly vs CK.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
So the writers had Cho, one of the smartest characters in Marvel, randomly make a comment about the multi-verse being destroyed for no particular reason? And don't ignore the rest of my post; zen-laian gods from an alt reality fought against Mikaboshi.

You do realize before this Cho needed Banner's multi-versal scanner (cost 634 trillion to make) to look into the muliverse, but they discovered it was so large he gave up as it would have taken him 1.5 billion years to find Hercules and decided to go the magic route to find him. Yet now he doesn't need it and knows the entire multiverse just by looking into the sky? Holy moly

What proof do you have they were alternate reality Zenn-La gods? Zenn-La has been restored since Silver Surfer Volume 3 #129-130

^ Uh oh. Someone done called down the wrath of King Mungi. 😛

That quote from FVL can mean JUST the 616 universe not the entire multiverse. If he predated all of existance that would mean he is older then the omniverse and now are you going to claim he is omniverse level?

Originally posted by -K-M-
You do realize before this Cho needed Banner's multi-versal scanner (cost 634 trillion to make) to look into the muliverse, but they discovered it was so large he gave up as it would have taken him 1.5 billion years to find Hercules and decided to go the magic route to find him. Yet now he doesn't need it and knows the entire multiverse just by looking into the sky? Holy moly

What proof do you have they were alternate reality Zenn-La gods? Zenn-La has been restored since Silver Surfer Volume 3 #129-130

wow man....its a comic...of course it doesnt make sense to you...superman flying makes no sense either but he does it...there is panel proof and multiple statements showing he is multiversal...ranging from cho to eternity...nothing more is needed in this argument...CK wins here

Originally posted by bbrem123
wow man....its a comic...of course it doesnt make sense to you...superman flying makes no sense either but he does it...there is panel proof and multiple statements showing he is multiversal...ranging from cho to eternity...nothing more is needed in this argument...CK wins here

616 on-panel is said to be a multiverse. Fact. Eternity not Multi-Eternity said CK is his equal meaning universial. Steve Rogers Heroic Age entry has CK as universial NOT multiversal. In the series itself We NEVER saw one alternate reality, only dimensions IN the 616 universe. Hercules at the end after he restored everything said he restored the UNIVERSE not the multiverse. CK in the end was happy to destroy a UNIVERSE not a multiverse. So no the proof is against you actually.

Originally posted by bbrem123
wow man....its a comic...of course it doesnt make sense to you...superman flying makes no sense either but he does it...there is panel proof and multiple statements showing he is multiversal...ranging from cho to eternity...nothing more is needed in this argument...CK wins here

Originally posted by -K-M-
616 on-panel is said to be a multiverse. Eternity not Multi-Eternity said CK is his equal meaning universial. Steve Rogers Heroic Age entry has CK as universial NOT multiversal. In the series itself We NEVER saw one alternate reality, only dimensions IN the 616 universe. Hercules at the end after he restored everything said he restored the UNIVERSE not the multiverse. CK in the end was happy to destroy a UNIVERSE not a multiverse. So no the proof is against you actually.

first off if ur saying 616 is a multiverse then ur contradicting urself...eternity is eternity man...hercules was stupid again when he said this...not good proof...he also says multiple times when he was omniscient so yea...and saying cho doesnt know what he is talking about is laughable...why the hell would he lie or make it up?....he wouldnt...seemed pretty confident to me

Originally posted by bbrem123
first off if ur saying 616 is a multiverse then ur contradicting urself...eternity is eternity man...hercules was stupid again when he said this...not good proof...he also says multiple times when he was omniscient so yea...and saying cho doesnt know what he is talking about is laughable...why the hell would he lie or make it up?....he wouldnt...seemed pretty confident to me

Ummm...no. Your taking the meaning of a multiverse as a different term. However, as noted the 616 is called a multiverse as it has countless different dimensions such as the Realm of the Beasts, Nightmare's relam, Paradise all the god realms but their all in the 616 universe. Does that include alternate realities? No as people have gone to different universes and there are duplicates of those dimensions there as well. Eternity is Eternity? Ummm...you do realise each universe has it's own eternity as the multi-eternity uses M-bodies. Actually I'm going to wage you don't. Did you miss the part I mentioned about Cho earlier who needed tech to scan the multiverse but gave up as it was to big? Oh my your failing. Now finally did we see ONE alternate reality to prove he was refering to a multiverse with alternate realities? Just say yes or no.

Right..let's forget the fact Hercules has had conversations about the multiverse before and has had adventures in it too...but yeah he was stupid 🙄 .