direct nuke hit?? has thor survived one? he seemed pretty impressed by the nuke during the maestro fight. not sure thor withstands a direct nuke shot. they burn somewhere in the neighbourhood of 100 million degrees which is WAYYYYY hotter even than the sun.....
i'm assuming of course he doesn't absorb the blast but actually takes it.
Sun > Nuclear Weapons from what I understand. An environment in which Thor has stood in unharmed.
I don't remember that. IIRC, Thor was in Warrior Madness when the Nuclear Weapon hit. PAD did have Nuclear Weapons in high regard though.
If nothing else he took the pseudo Nuclear Weapon in Kang War. It was also said that an Atomic Blast can't injure Thor by the narrator. IIRC, he also withstood a Cobalt Bomb for a Government experiment off panel.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sun > Nuclear Weapons from what I understand. An environment in which Thor has stood in unharmed.I don't remember that. IIRC, Thor was in Warrior Madness when the Nuclear Weapon hit. PAD did have Nuclear Weapons in high regard though.
If nothing else he took the pseudo Nuclear Weapon in Kang War. It was also said that an Atomic Blast can't injure Thor by the narrator. IIRC, he also withstood a Cobalt Bomb for a Government experiment off panel.
heat of a nuke is well above even the core of the sun. as regards the atum feat--i've always been of the impression that atum was protecting thor there. you probably see it different.
the kang feat was well away from the epicenter though. and was he ko'd by that? can't recall off-hand. heat dissipates very quickly away from the epicenter at any rate.
i'd be hard-pressed to believe thor could withstand a direct hit from a nuke. if he did, i'd say he'd be VERY weak and that the team could probably take him out. not many characters in comics can take a direct hit from a nuke imo.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sun > Nuclear Weapons from what I understand. An environment in which Thor has stood in unharmed.I don't remember that. IIRC, Thor was in Warrior Madness when the Nuclear Weapon hit. PAD did have Nuclear Weapons in high regard though.
If nothing else he took the pseudo Nuclear Weapon in Kang War. It was also said that an Atomic Blast can't injure Thor by the narrator. IIRC, he also withstood a Cobalt Bomb for a Government experiment off panel.
It depends on where in the sun.
Most of the sun that people fly in (on the surface) 5,500 degrees and a nuke is way hotter. The corona gets to be about 5 million or so and the core is estimated at 10,000,000.
Temps at ground zero and just beyond of nukes hits the tens of millions of degrees. hotter than anywhere on our sun.
Originally posted by leonidas
heat of a nuke is well above even the core of the sun. as regards the atum feat--i've always been of the impression that atum was protecting thor there. you probably see it different.
I always saw it as they were communicating on a different plane of existence, not literally inside the Sun's core. I mean how would they hear each other speaking? Wouldn't Thor's clothes have been burnt off? What were they "standing" on?
The different plane of existence was kinda confirmed when Thor flung Mjolnir at Atum, it flew right through him.
PS a nuke doesn't weaken Thor enough for these scrubs to beat him. He withstood multiple Celestial assaults, he can withstand a nuke.
PSS What level nuke? 10 megatons? 50 megatons?
😕 How does Mjolnir flying through Atum prove that Thor was on a different plane of existence?
It was Atum that existed on a different plane. That's the reason why Mjolnir went through him and Thor had to adjust his method of attack:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AtumandThorinSun1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AtumandThorinSun2.jpg
Thor can survive in the hear of Stars:
Thor has sailed into the heart of Suns.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SurviveInSun2.jpgThor has flown through a thousand flickering Stars.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SurviveInSun1.jpg
Even a weakened Bill has survived in a Star that was about to go Nova. If it's feats of heat resistance that is needed, Thor has plenty that I can post.
Originally posted by leonidas
heat of a nuke is well above even the core of the sun. as regards the atum feat--i've always been of the impression that atum was protecting thor there. you probably see it different.the kang feat was well away from the epicenter though. and was he ko'd by that? can't recall off-hand. heat dissipates very quickly away from the epicenter at any rate.
i'd be hard-pressed to believe thor could withstand a direct hit from a nuke. if he did, i'd say he'd be VERY weak and that the team could probably take him out. not many characters in comics can take a direct hit from a nuke imo.
Well above even the core of the Sun? Really?
Why would Atum be protecting Thor? That makes no sense.
What are you talking about? Thor flew right at the epicenter and was maybe a few feet away from the core. And no he was not knocked out. He was knocked off his feet but that's it.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke6.jpg
To be fair though, the Kang Nuclear Weapon was aimed more at organic tissue or what have you.
Why? I think Thor can shrug off a Nuclear Weapon unharmed if the writer needs him to. Thor has feats that make withstanding a Nuclear Weapon seem pitiful in comparison. I didn't want to list them but I can if I have to.
Not even an Atomic blast can injure the mighty Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AtomicBlastUnharmed.jpg
Originally posted by dmills
50?! Man if they start having characters tanking 50 megaton nukes from ground zero range without shielding then I'll stop reading comics.
Well you can stop reading comics now 😛
Did you see the scans Rage provided? Thor was unphased by a nuke blast that freaking knocked Wonder Man out! He's supposedly made of ionic energy or something and he was floored while Thor walked away like nothing happened 😱
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😕 How does Mjolnir flying through Atum prove that Thor was on a different plane of existence?It was Atum that existed on a different plane. That's the reason why Mjolnir went through him and Thor had to adjust his method of attack:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AtumandThorinSun1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AtumandThorinSun2.jpgThor can survive in the hear of Stars:
Even a weakened Bill has survived in a Star that was about to go Nova. If it's feats of heat resistance that is needed, Thor has plenty that I can post.
Well above even the core of the Sun? Really?
Why would Atum be protecting Thor? That makes no sense.
What are you talking about? Thor flew right at the epicenter and was maybe a few feet away from the core. And no he was not knocked out. He was knocked off his feet but that's it.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/UnharmedNuke6.jpgTo be fair though, the Kang Nuclear Weapon was aimed more at organic tissue or what have you.
Why? I think Thor can shrug off a Nuclear Weapon unharmed if the writer needs him to. Thor has feats that make withstanding a Nuclear Weapon seem pitiful in comparison. I didn't want to list them but I can if I have to.
There's also the off panel feat where he survives a Cobalt Bomb. I don't have the scan, but it happens in Journey Into Mystery #86.
i agree with zop that they weren't really in the sun. too weird. they certainly wouldn't just be standing there talking.... anyway, i've debated it at length a couple times in the past and have no desire to do so again since i already know you'll never change your mind.
core of sun=about 10-15 million degrees
large yield nuke explosion=about 100-150 million degrees...... that's a HUGE difference.
that kang scan is a good feat, but as you said, it's a different nuke altogether.
that 'nuclear wave' scan is..... silly. it didn't even blow up up the cavern. an actual nuke of course wipes out everything for miles around. if you're going by that narration from 40yrs ago, wellll.... you're welcome to your thoughts.
as far as thor surviving a direct hit from a nuke--it's possible, as i said. i could name loads of feats that might seem greater than a nuke attack as well, but there are plenty of times where a lot less has harmed him too. we're talking about heat unlike any thor has ever been exposed to far as i know--10x hotter than the core of the sun--in a very concentrated area. i'd wager in a book if we saw him in the heart of a nuke it wouldn't end well for him unless he absorbed it.
as for wonderman--it'd be far more shocking if thor didn't fair better than he did.
