Thor vs Team

Started by dmills2 pages

@leonidas,
Not to mention the huge difference in power between an atomic bomb and a thermo nuclear device.

Should I list some of Thor's durability feats? It's going to make Nuclear Weapons seem unimpressive in comparison.

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree with zop that they weren't really in the sun. too weird. they certainly wouldn't just be standing there talking.... anyway, i've debated it at length a couple times in the past and have no desire to do so again since i already know you'll never change your mind.

I don't understand what's the problem with them simply conversing? What else do expect them to do? We're talking about Atum and Thor here. A core of a Star should not be any problem.

Whatever, I don't particularly care as long as you don't argue Thor can't survive in the heart of a Star.

Originally posted by leonidas
core of sun=about 10-15 million degrees

large yield nuke explosion=about 100-150 million degrees...... that's a HUGE difference.

Okay.

Originally posted by leonidas
that kang scan is a good feat, but as you said, it's a different nuke altogether.

It was focused more on wiping out organic tissue instead of damaging material shit IIRC but as seen it was still incredibly powerful. If he can survive that, I don't see the problem with him surviving a Nuclear Weapon.

Originally posted by leonidas
that 'nuclear wave' scan is..... silly. it didn't even blow up up the cavern. an actual nuke of course wipes out everything for miles around. if you're going by that narration from 40yrs ago, wellll.... you're welcome to your thoughts.

In that scan, it said not even an Atomic Blast could injure Thor. The Nuclear Wave thing is just icing.

Please don't try that with me.

Originally posted by leonidas
as far as thor surviving a direct hit from a nuke--it's possible, as i said. i could name loads of feats that might seem greater than a nuke attack as well, but there are plenty of times where a lot less has harmed him too.

It's more than possible. If needed to, characters like Thor would laugh off a Nuclear Weapons. Beings like him take and laugh off planet busting attacks.

So what, you want to use an average Thor or something and not his high end feats? Because based on what I've seen, you're using a low end version if your doubting his ability to survive a Nuclear Weapon as much as you are. Still, I admit that there's a far less chance of Thor laughing away a Nuclear Weapon if use his average. Of course, I think there's a 100% of him laughing one off if we use his higher end feats.

Originally posted by leonidas
we're talking about heat unlike any thor has ever been exposed to far as i know--10x hotter than the core of the sun--in a very concentrated area. i'd wager in a book if we saw him in the heart of a nuke it wouldn't end well for him unless he absorbed it.

There you go again. And if it's resistance to heat you want:

Thor withstands the Cosmic flame -created by the Power Cosmic- of a blood lusted FireLord that was born in the raging hearts of a million Suns after having defeated another herald of Galactus, Airwalker.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsFireLord10.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsFireLord11.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsFireLord12.jpg
Note: FireLord's cosmic flame has hurt even the Silver Surfer.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Ahurting1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Ahurting2.jpg

The God Killer Super Skrull -a being that possessed the power of Stormbreaker on top of the powers of various other super powered beings- pours heat upon heat of Cosmic Fire, and Thor withstands the onslaught.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsSuperGodSkrull12.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsSuperGodSkrull13.jpg

Loki, who is known for his extreme magical prowess, uses his sorcery to completely engulf Thor in flame and Thor is unharmed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsLoki69.jpg

Thor does not even notice the aura of mystical flame that encircles him as he beats on an amped Loki.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor31.jpg

A point blank blast from Fafnirs powerful flame only knocks Thor off his feet.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/DefeatsFafnir1.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/DefeatsFafnir2.jpg
Note: In the same story, it does a number on Hela herself.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ThorvsHela19.jpg

Thor is able to hold his hammer despite the fact that it burns with the heat of a thousand suns.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSurtur3.jpg

Withstands magical bolts of fire created by the Odin eye.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsOdinEye1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsOdinEye2.jpg

Is able to survive unharmed in the furnace of the Trolls themselves. The same furnace that is hotter than the darkest pits of hades and forged Mjolnir from a core of a Star.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FurnaceUnharmed1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FurnaceUnharmed2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FurnaceUnharmed3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FurnaceUnharmed4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FurnaceUnharmed5.jpg

Thor is able to hold with his bare hands the Gem of Infinite Suns without any discomfort, yet with a touch, it burns even Kurse.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsGemInfiniteSuns1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsGemInfiniteSuns3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsGemInfiniteSuns4.jpg
Note: The Gem of Infinite Suns contains the power of a multitude of Suns.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsGemInfiniteSuns2.jpg
It is a source of solar energy unlimited and can instantly thaw all of Asgard.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsGemInfiniteSuns4.jpg
Its power can contain the cold of the Casket of Winters itself.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsGemInfiniteSuns5.jpg

Thor walks through a raging torrent of hellfire created by Mephisto in his own realm.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WithstandsHellfire.jpg

Masterson Thor withstands being engulfed by Stellar Fire created by Heimdall who possessed a portion of the Odin Force at the time.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/WithstandsStellarFire.jpg


Originally posted by leonidas
as for wonderman--it'd be far more shocking if thor didn't fair better than he did.

Agreed.

Originally posted by leonidas
as for wonderman--it'd be far more shocking if thor didn't fair better than he did.

I could have sworn he was made up of ionic energy, he's not flesh and blood? I just figured he'd be more durable than Thor.

And the Sun feat is a moot point now, seeing as how he's survived nuke strikes.

Nah, Simon has never been more durable than Thor. And how much is ionic energy and how much is blood/bones/tissue depends on the writer.

Re: Thor vs Team

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor has just taken a direct hit from a nuke, and then is attacked by this team. Can they win?

Team:

Captain America
Spiderman
Hawkeye
Wolverine
Cyclops

Thor beats them down.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor has just taken a direct hit from a nuke, and then is attacked by this team. Can they win?

Team:

Captain America
Spiderman
Hawkeye
Wolverine
Cyclops

Thor's going to be pissed if he gets attacked after a blast like that. The team is completely grounded with Cyclops being the only one with a distinct possibility of reaching Thor in flight. Thor slaughters them if he really wants to.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Should I list some of Thor's durability feats? It's going to make Nuclear Weapons seem unimpressive in comparison.

I don't understand what's the problem with them simply conversing? What else do expect them to do? We're talking about Atum and Thor here. A core of a Star should not be any problem.

Whatever, I don't particularly care as long as you don't argue Thor can't survive in the heart of a Star.

Okay.

It was focused more on wiping out organic tissue instead of damaging material shit IIRC but as seen it was still incredibly powerful. If he can survive that, I don't see the problem with him surviving a Nuclear Weapon.

In that scan, it said not even an Atomic Blast could injure Thor. The Nuclear Wave thing is just icing.

Please don't try that with me.

It's more than possible. If needed to, characters like Thor would laugh off a Nuclear Weapons. Beings like him take and laugh off planet busting attacks.

So what, you want to use an average Thor or something and not his high end feats? Because based on what I've seen, you're using a low end version if your doubting his ability to survive a Nuclear Weapon as much as you are. Still, I admit that there's a far less chance of Thor laughing away a Nuclear Weapon if use his average. Of course, I think there's a 100% of him laughing one off if we use his higher end feats.

There you go again. And if it's resistance to heat you want:

Agreed.

i've already argued thor being able to live in a star. he likely could with his hammer which could easily be absorbing the heat around him.

none of those heat feats is close to a nuke, and many are magical. like i said, if you want to use 40yr old narration as proof, good on ya. personally, i'd never use it. too old, too weak, and it was never shown. but, whatever you'd like.

and of course i use an 'average thor'. i almost take always take an average version of a character. and thor's been dropped by a LOT less than a nuke. and that is NOT low showings only. thor was awed by that nuke that went off when he was fighting the maestro, and banner certaibly didn't think thor would survive it and actually punched him out of the bomb's range.

regardless--this is something he is just standing there attempting to take. a nuke can destroy a large city. since he can't use his hammer to defend himself here from the nuke, what do you think is thor's best durability feat WITHOUT using his hammer to protect him?

Thor's taken planet-busting attacks and survived. The last time I checked, a nuclear bomb couldn't destroy a large asteroid, nevermind planet. Thor wins this fight with complete ease.