Darkseid team vs Tyrant

Started by quanchi11211 pages

Originally posted by Comics Queen
I already posted where Superman's heat vision while in the 4th world was able to seal a rift in reality and How orion exlains the boomtube's altering him Superman to be able to be in the 4th world. Did you see my scan before you addressed?
That has nothing to do with other writers handling other characters in apokolips. You can't take this showing to try and justify another showing by another writer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That has nothing to do with other writers handling other characters in apokolips. You can't take this showing to try and justify another showing by another writer.
Actually I can. All Subsequent stories after a certain story are subject to the story in question unless a retcon has happened or something in the story is stated to directly contradict said earlier story.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Actually I can. All Subsequent stories after a certain story are subject to the story in question unless a retcon has happened or something in the story is stated to directly contradict said earlier story.
I beg to differ. That's like saying each writer handles k-nite affecting Superman in the same manner. Writers vary everything from power levels to personalities and unless it's stated in the story itself as amp then it isn't an amp.

DD also didn't boomtube into this planet either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I beg to differ. That's like saying each writer handles k-nite affecting Superman in the same manner. Writers vary everything from power levels to personalities and unless it's stated in the story itself as amp then it isn't an amp.

DD also didn't boomtube into this planet either.

DD is an adapting being. He should have been an insect, which thus invalidates the story or he adapted for size.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
DD is an adapting being. He should have been an insect, which thus invalidates the story or he adapted for size.
So you decided the showing doesn't count. LOL. When did he adapt for size on panel ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you decided the showing doesn't count. LOL. When did he adapt for size on panel ?
You have no answer? I didn't decide anything. Did I say it didn't count? Once the precident is set, it cannot be unset because of a writer mistake.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
You have no answer? I didn't decide anything. Did I say it didn't count? Once the precident is set, it cannot be unset because of a writer mistake.
The writer determines what rules or powers he defines for the character not a previous writer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
DD wasn't boomtubed either and at no point was an amp ever mentioned. Supes got an amp by a motherbox not for simply being there. Do you read these comics ?

The DD story was before the Peter David story about Boomtubes, so it doesn't apply. The Supergirl incident where she was the size of an insect in comparison to the NG was after the Peter David story. Basically if DD had gone there after the Peter David continuity he'd have been an insect too.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Superman's heat vision was holding back Darkseid's Omega Beam or Effect or whatever you call it.

I suggest you read what he said and what I replied to. You too, Comics Queen.

"As far the OE is concerned only Mxy (that I've seen) was unaffected by it."

Supes has never been hit by the OE. He's taken the omega energies, but not the Omega Effect. People wrongfully term his power source as the "Omega Effect" but the OE is a specific aspect of the Omega Force, which erases beings from existence i.e. the victim is removed from reality entirely, meaning they were never born or even existed as a concept.

Also the Omega Effect works on contact, an instantaneous reaction it doesn't require DS to change or increase the intensity of the energy. If he uses the OE the victims is erased through contact from the beams. The stuff he uses regularly are just disintegration beams or high energy beams.
There are variations of the Omega Force like what he does to Batman in the Return of Batman, turning his body into a time bomb meant to destroy reality.

Allan.. in the scan where his heat vision was blocked is SPECIFICALLY called it the Omega Effect.

Anyways... what on God's Green Earth is the basis for DS beating Tyrant.. when really.. he gets dealt with without that much difficulty

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Who is this guy? Looks like a New Evil God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Impossible
i viewed him as the evil counterpart of mr. miracle... much like how the inhabitants of new earth/earth 2 differ (ie. they house good and evil versions of the same basic character.)

Originally posted by Allankles
And why would the CSA bother bringing back Alexander Luthor?
to try and coerce him into saving their universe, instead of releasing the dark matter which nearly destroyed it (as he did before he died.)

Originally posted by Allankles
The DD story was before the Peter David story about Boomtubes, so it doesn't apply. The Supergirl incident where she was the size of an insect in comparison to the NG was after the Peter David story. Basically if DD had gone there after the Peter David continuity he'd have been an insect too.
Yep but different strokes for different folks.

Dammit I wanted Comic Queen to stick around. We need more poster who contribute... not less. Just because he trolled back in the day.. doesn't mean he would do the same now. I think we need to show a little bit more patience with old offenders till they mess up again. Not just ban them because they were once bad. People do learn.

nonsense

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Allan.. in the scan where his heat vision was blocked is SPECIFICALLY called it the Omega Effect.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the scene, but the OE doesn't touch him.

Yeah, because it can get blocked THAT EASILY

That depends on the writer, in Generations he showed that he can use the beams like a grilled cage, against a blitzing Supes. Trapping Clark in an inescapable box of omega beams.

So... again depends on the plot or writer, it's as difficult to block as the plot entails.