Tyrant vs. Void vs. Molecule Man · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Scans please?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by "Id"
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Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

You know what people overlook about the Void/Molecule Man fight? In that issue, he stated Daken was difficult to kill because of his healing factor or some such. That was basically all the evidence I needed to come to the conclusion he was watered down.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You know what people overlook about the Void/Molecule Man fight? In that issue, he stated Daken was difficult to kill because of his healing factor or some such. That was basically all the evidence I needed to come to the conclusion he was watered down.

Oh come on. When do we start arbitrarily deciding that when characters have "bad showings" they must have just been weaker than when they had good ones? There's a lot of dumb moments in comics but i've never heard people say stuff like "well of course hulk didn't put down wolverine; he must have been weak that issue!"

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Huh. Ok, Void is clearly abit stronger than I thought. You got scans of the Siege fight? I'm still going to say Molecule Man jobbed though. Void is definitely looking trans-ish there.

Edit: If MM said that about Daken, that's kinda bs right there.

MrMind Senior Member

what has post retcon molecule man done other then fighting void in dark avengers series.

Comics Queen Restricted

That is something like the Superboy Prime And Mxy thing. Prime had Mxy held but needed Mxy to put everything back. That shows pretty much that Own was more powerful than Sentry. Anyone who can beat MM can pretty much put everything back on their own.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Good point. He is powerful, but he's not more than tran-ish based on that. Prime had insane feats to go with the mxy part anyway.

I would like more scans please. Thanks Kandy.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You know what people overlook about the Void/Molecule Man fight? In that issue, he stated Daken was difficult to kill because of his healing factor or some such. That was basically all the evidence I needed to come to the conclusion he was watered down.

Are you serious ? That would be like saying Thor is less durable when a bullet pierces him. This can be played both ways are you sure you wanna do this, rage ?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Comics Queen
That is something like the Superboy Prime And Mxy thing. Prime had Mxy held but needed Mxy to put everything back. That shows pretty much that Own was more powerful than Sentry. Anyone who can beat MM can pretty much put everything back on their own.

They said explicitly in the comic that it was only because Owen was more experienced. You can't just make up other reasons.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by MrMind
what has post retcon molecule man done other then fighting void in dark avengers series.

Kicked Kosmos's ass and pulled the Beyonder's essence from her, in a fight that was warping the multiverse.

Comics Queen Restricted

Originally posted by King Kandy
They said explicitly in the comic that it was only because Owen was more experienced. You can't just make up other reasons.

If Owen was more experienced then why didn't he just beat the Void?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Comics Queen
If Owen was more experienced then why didn't he just beat the Void?

Because Void was more powerful. His control was capable of overpowering Owens. He just couldn't do intricate manipulations.

Comics Queen Restricted

Originally posted by King Kandy
Because Void was more powerful. His control was capable of overpowering Owens. He just couldn't do intricate manipulations.

Void more powerful? So then Void got beaten by Thor right? So Thor>Molecule Man? No.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Void more powerful? So then Void got beaten by Thor right? So Thor>Molecule Man? No.

No he didn't get "beaten" by Thor. He allowed Thor to kill him, because he wanted to die.

Comics Queen Restricted

Originally posted by King Kandy
No he didn't get "beaten" by Thor. He allowed Thor to kill him, because he wanted to die.

So if Superman wanted to Die, could he allow Batman to kill him with no kryptonite?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Comics Queen
So if Superman wanted to Die, could he allow Batman to kill him with no kryptonite?

Different characters, etc. Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body but Void can come back when he wants to and has proven so.

Comics Queen Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Different characters, etc. Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body but Void can come back when he wants to and has proven so.

Then the point is still proven. Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body. That was the point. Weather Void is immortal or not is no concern. There are many immortal beings. That doesn't make them more powerful than Molecule Man.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Then the point is still proven. Thor was powerful enough to destroy his body. That was the point. Weather Void is immortal or not is no concern. There are many immortal beings. That doesn't make them more powerful than Molecule Man.

His showing against the MM shows him as more powerful. One writer tackled these two and showed Void clearly outclassed him. Void's durability clearly changes he's even screwed with his wife before and had his head shot off. The point is the writer agreed the only reason the Void didn't return was because he didn't want to so if Void actively wants to kill Thor there he comes right back and continues his assault.

He also demanded he kill him and forced Thor to do so.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

He was stunned by a helicarrier enough for Reynolds to reassert control. Molecule Man jobbed.