The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Originally posted by Mindset
Well, it's a lot harder to catch someone's foot mid fight than hit them with 3/5 punches.

Just sayin.

No it's not. If you are in the middle of a stand up exchange, and decide to shot for a leg or a foot because you can't land a hit, you probably will get it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No it's not. If you are in the middle of a stand up exchange, and decide to shot for a leg or a foot because you can't land a hit, you probably will get it.

A punch moves much faster than trying to grab someone's legs and successfully catching it.

Thor didn't shot for a takedown.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it is.

A punch moves much faster than trying to grab someone's legs and successfully catching it.

Thor didn't shot for a takedown.

Didn't Thor grab him by the ankle?

Yes.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes.

Thanks....didn't feel like hunting the scan down.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it is.

A punch moves much faster than trying to grab someone's legs and successfully catching it.

Thor didn't shot for a takedown.

Arm speed is more or less the same regardless of throwing a punch or trying to grab something... but your eyes is no were near your legs. 😎

We don't know what Thor tried to do, we weren't privy to those panels, we just know it resulted in him catching an ankle. For all we know Wolverine tried to kick him, and Thor caught him. Regardless, it's easier to grab a leg than to land a punch.

We know that he was fast enough to reach down and grab Wolverine's ankle without getting hit. So like I said....that fight doesn't prove what you want it to.

Back to the topic. Thor wins the majority.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Arm speed is more or less the same regardless of throwing a punch or trying to grab something... but your eyes is no were near your legs. 😎

We don't know what Thor tried to do, we weren't privy to those panels, we just know it resulted in him catching an ankle. For all we know Wolverine tried to kick him, and Thor caught him. Regardless, it's easier to grab a leg than to land a punch.

I'm sure jinzin would definitely disagree.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think that was ever stated or even suggested.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sorry, but I don't think that's true.

I flipped through a bunch of the issues, I think you guys are right, though I may just have missed some one-off comment somewhere

I did find these, however. The character rushing at Gorgon is a speedster:

Originally posted by Mindset
Then you don't know anything about fighting.

I'm sure jinzin would definitely disagree.

Dude, it's easier to grab a single or a double then it is to land a punch, you just want to catch some off guard so end up in a sprawl... something that doesn't matter when you can bench press a mountain range.

Originally posted by inimalist
I flipped through a bunch of the issues, I think you guys are right, though I may just have missed some one-off comment somewhere

I did find these, however. The character rushing at Gorgon is a speedster:

Thor has been able to grab a rushing Hermes, who I'm fairly sure is faster.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Dude, it's easier to grab a single or a double then it is to land a punch, you just want to catch some off guard so end up in a sprawl... something that doesn't matter when you can bench press a mountain range.

Grabbing someone's ankle in the middle of a fight isn't easier than landing a punch.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor has been able to grab a rushing Hermes, who I'm fairly sure is faster.

scans?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Grabbing someone's ankle in the middle of a fight isn't easier than landing a punch.

it would be hard to say one is more difficult than the other... they are entirely different things

Originally posted by inimalist
scans?

Rage already posted them.

what page?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Grabbing someone's ankle in the middle of a fight isn't easier than landing a punch.

yeah, i'd disagree. ankle is very small, it is at the end of a longer appendage and would therefore be travelling at a greater velocity than a head which only moves side-to-side on a short neck. punching can strike anywhere as well.

you CAN grab a leg easily in a brawl because the area is large and the leg is likely stationary. far different from a dodging target. grabbing an ankle like that would be very difficult. for what it's worth.

Originally posted by inimalist
what page?

66

Dude, we don't see Thor shooting for a double or single leg takedown, why do you keep bringing it up? He grabbed his ankle, that's harder than landing a punch.

It pretty dam clear the intent of the author is that Wolverine speed>>Thor. You can argue Thor being faster, but that comic is not aiding that arguement, and I am astounded by how many people can even attempt such an arguement.

Originally posted by Silent Master
66

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you mean the scans that even Rage says he isn't using because Thor is amping with the hammer:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[QUOTE=13275040]Originally posted by Ize19
[B]I love the fact that they're stil trying to use the Hermes scans, despite the fact that in both instances, Thor CLEARLY is using Mjolnir for its speed, especially in the second one, where Thor goes from a standing position, to throwing Mjolnir, taking out Hermes, then landing again. But yeah, him spinning and throwing Mjolnir was for fun.

Not sure if anyone's used that as evidence. I certainly haven't.

Question: Would that tactic be banned? How about Thor spinning Mjolnir and creating a barrier? [/B][/QUOTE]