The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Started by leonidas117 pages
Originally posted by Starscream M
why would it be? 😕

huh. i also thought it was banned for some reason. i think that makes a pretty big difference in this.

Originally posted by Starscream M
why would it be? 😕

Because Thor could get around the ban on throwing Mjolnir by flying into Gorgon/OR while holding it.

Hell, I assumed flight was banned anyway.

With it, he destroys them.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
colossus, rogue and iron man. There may be a few others, but not 100% sure. He tanked there shots easily. He has high level blunt force durability. There not Thor strength true, but he also withstood colossus blows while in extremely weaken state.

Tanking hits from those three does not in any way, shape or form prove that he can take hits from Thor. Like at all. And IIRC, weren't all of Stark's systems at 30% less capacity in his fight with Omega Red?

I don't think Starscream realizes what Thor flying means.

I'd say this isn't anything even resembling a fair fight anymore.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The ww hulk fight for example was simply taken out of context in the sense wolverine was nothing more than a mere annoyance to the ww hulk. He fought him with an entire team present and was still easily beaten down.

actaully he dident. Hulk bfr him, wolverien came back but his team was already beaten. Then he fought WWH by him self.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolverine isn't anywhere close to WW Hulk's level. Wolverine is difficult to kill but to beat ww hulk could od so in a variety of ways and with ease.

I never said he was.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I just wanted to correct the misrepresentation of the ww hulk/wolverine fight.


by what creating a falser one?

also I never made a single statement about wwh, so i really have no idea were haft your arguement towards me even came from

Originally posted by inimalist
oh, I'm retarded, Thor wins easily

why you say that?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Tanking hits from those three does not in any way, shape or form prove that he can take hits from Thor. Like at all. And IIRC, weren't all of Stark's systems at 30% less capacity in his fight with Omega Red?

I hope not, because leaving out such important info when mentioning the feat would IMO basically equal lying.

just cuz he can fly doesn't mean he WILL fly. please consider them fighting IN CHARACTER please.

I don't envision Thor zipping around like a bullet against two foes he might underestimate to be beneath him.

Also, gorgon is fast enough to easily dodge a flying thor.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
actaully he dident. Hulk bfr him, wolverien came back but his team was already beaten. Then he fought WWH by him self.

I never said he was.

by what creating a falser one?

also I never made a single statement about wwh, so i really have no idea were haft your arguement towards me even came from

You backed up the other poster who referenced ww hulk.

A bfr is a clean win. Hulk wasn't there to kill anyone and later on we found out he held back the entire time. Easily bfr'ing wolverine and treating him like a nonfactor while taking on teams of mutants shows where he sits at on the pecking order.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Tanking hits from those three does not in any way, shape or form prove that he can take hits from Thor. Like at all. And IIRC, weren't all of Stark's systems at 30% less capacity in his fight with Omega Red?

no that was the second fight, in which omega red was stated to have thing level strength.

There really no reason to assume omega red can't tank a punch from thor. Take a bunch likely not, one or two? in my opinion, he most likely can.

Originally posted by Starscream M
just cuz he can fly doesn't mean he WILL fly. please consider them fighting IN CHARACTER please.

I don't envision Thor zipping around like a bullet against two foes he might underestimate to be beneath him.

Also, gorgon is fast enough to easily dodge a flying thor.

Gorgon is fast enough to easily dodge someone that can fly FTL?

Originally posted by Starscream M
just cuz he can fly doesn't mean he WILL fly. please consider them fighting IN CHARACTER please.

I don't envision Thor zipping around like a bullet against two foes he might underestimate to be beneath him.

Also, gorgon is fast enough to easily dodge a flying thor.

Haha.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I hope not, because leaving out such important info when mentioning the feat would IMO basically equal lying.

Stark's armor gave him a system check or whatever when he and Omega Red tangled up IIRC.

Not sure if Red took any attacks before that. Been a while.

Originally posted by Starscream M
just cuz he can fly doesn't mean he WILL fly. please consider them fighting IN CHARACTER please.

I don't envision Thor zipping around like a bullet against two foes he might underestimate to be beneath him.

Also, gorgon is fast enough to easily dodge a flying thor.

Uh...

Yeah, why wouldn't Thor fly here? Like, seriously? If everything else has been nerfed, why wouldn't Thor rely on what he can do? He flies in character. A lot.

He doesn't have to fly like a bullet back and forth to beat them. Not when he can basically go in a straight path and barrel into them.

You do realize how fast Thor can fly, correct?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Y

A bfr is a clean win. Hulk wasn't there to kill anyone and later on we found out he held back the entire time. Easily bfr'ing wolverine and treating him like a nonfactor while taking on teams of mutants shows where he sits at on the pecking order.


Not when the character makes it back under there own ability.

prove it.

Really becuase Hulk stated and I quote " we could fight all day". I think you are completely underselling what happen. Wolverine though clearly got beat, put up a better fight then almost anyone.

why are we even argueing this. My intent never was about WWH. I wa ssimply bring up that pretending that Wolverine fights with hulk are some outliner is absurd, when he was hulks rogue originally and that he foughten hulk more times then anyone else, villain or hero.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not when the character makes it back under there own ability.

prove it.

Really becuase Hulk stated and I quote " we could fight all day". I think you are completely underselling what happen. Wolverine though clearly got beat, put up a better fight then almost anyone.

why are we even argueing this. My intent never was about WWH. I wa ssimply bring up that pretending that Wolverine fights with hulk are some outliner is absurd, when he was hulks rogue originally and that he foughten hulk more times then anyone else, villain or hero.

In a reasonable amount of time. Hulk fought more foes, bfr'd the juggernaut, and then spoke to Prof. x.

Prove what that ww hulk is just on another level than wolverine ? Are you serious ?

No, he didn't the juggernaut clearly put up the best fight out of anyone there. WW Hulk can easily beat wolverine any time he wants with his friends present, apparently.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Gorgon is fast enough to easily dodge someone that can fly FTL?
Thor's gonna fly FTL in an adamantium stadium? does he WANT TO DIE?

Originally posted by leonidas
why you say that?

more than anything, the ability to stick and move

Originally posted by Starscream M
just cuz he can fly doesn't mean he WILL fly. please consider them fighting IN CHARACTER please.

I don't envision Thor zipping around like a bullet against two foes he might underestimate to be beneath him.

Also, gorgon is fast enough to easily dodge a flying thor.

the team is going to have to fight smart and flawlessly against Thor when he is on their level. In fact, without Thor being able to fly, they have a huge tactical advantage in setting the pace of the fight, their best bet being a surround where OR would force Thor into commiting to attack him, and Gorgon gets essentially a free backstab. Without that type of tactical ability, I don't see them overcomming some of the things Thor does outclass them in.

For Thor to be able to fly, he now sets the pace of the fight. There is only contact when he wants, where he wants, and it ends when he wants. In the situation I described above, Thor fighting smart would just fly away any time he got in between his enemies. So sure, Gorgon might be able to dodge Thor, its not going to give him a W, imho.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

You do realize how fast Thor can fly, correct?

yes, not fast enough to fluster gorgon.

thor can fly fast in space...in an enclosed adamantium space, flying at his max speed is essentially suicide.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Thor's gonna fly FTL in an adamantium stadium? does he WANT TO DIE?

Why would he die? His degree of control during flight is pretty impeccable.

Plus he doesn't need to fly FTL to destroy them.