The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lowball much?

I just find it funny that you essentially cling on to Thor's low end showings as the basis that these two beat him and when people give you examples of what Thor actually has done and to degrees he has them done them to, you either ignore it or...

Ignore it.

Because the dozen times Thor has slugged it out with Hulk or Hercules or Absorbingman or any one of dozens of bricks isn't an indication of his skill or speed? Thor can fly FTL, fly and nothing more. Just like Iron Man. Just like Ms Marvel. His combat speed is at best peak human. Gorgon is faster than him. Omega Red is faster than him. Gorgon would cut Thor up the moment the fight began.

What are some OR speed feats? Taking it to Iron Man?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Dident grass cutter not break? Only the flawed god killer broke I thought.

Both have broken in their fight.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because the dozen times Thor has slugged it out with Hulk or Hercules or Absorbingman or any one of dozens of bricks isn't an indication of his skill or speed? Thor can fly FTL, fly and nothing more. Just like Iron Man. Just like Ms Marvel. His combat speed is at best peak human. Gorgon is faster than him. Omega Red is faster than him. Gorgon would cut Thor up the moment the fight began.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Both have broken in their fight.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Prove it. I want 3 examples of him creating giant holes to defeat his opponent.

I not talking shock waves. I talking making a giant hole to engulf his opponents like you suggested.

Giant holes? Like twice. Once against Loki, and other instance against Mephisto or some other demonic entity.

You can make it three if you use the instance Thor pounded Grogg so hard, he was sent hurtling through the Avenger's island but this one fits the bill more imo:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionPark2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionPark3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesDestructionPark4.jpg

Course, it wasn't on the level needed to defeat Omega Red or Gorgon with them being humans and all but the power shown is irrelevant.

There's also this scene:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SplitsCountry1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SplitsCountry2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SplitsCountry3.jpg'

But it wasn't in battle.

Shockwaves? Multiple times.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because the dozen times Thor has slugged it out with Hulk or Hercules or Absorbingman or any one of dozens of bricks isn't an indication of his skill or speed? Thor can fly FTL, fly and nothing more. Just like Iron Man. Just like Ms Marvel. His combat speed is at best peak human. Gorgon is faster than him. Omega Red is faster than him. Gorgon would cut Thor up the moment the fight began.

Shows what you know about Thor. Nothing.

Prove Gorgon is faster than him. Prove Omega Red is faster. Use their on panel feats to show them outclassing Thor. Prove they can withstand having Mjolnir tossed at them and ricocheting around the stadium striking them multiple times. Prove they can endure Thor's striking power with his bare fist, let alone with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
What are some OR speed feats? Taking it to Iron Man?

He chased down a sports car on foot and was said to be faster than Daredevil. His speed is also on par with Wolverine's who is established as being faster than Thor.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because the dozen times Thor has slugged it out with Hulk or Hercules or Absorbingman or any one of dozens of bricks isn't an indication of his skill or speed? Thor can fly FTL, fly and nothing more. Just like Iron Man. Just like Ms Marvel. His combat speed is at best peak human. Gorgon is faster than him. Omega Red is faster than him. Gorgon would cut Thor up the moment the fight began.

facepalm

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Shows what you know about Thor. Nothing.

Prove Gorgon is faster than him. Prove Omega Red is faster. Use their on panel feats to show them outclassing Thor. Prove they can withstand having Mjolnir tossed at them and ricocheting around the stadium striking them multiple times. Prove they can endure Thor's striking power with his bare fist, let alone with Mjolnir.

CIS on Thor slugs it out like a bruiser because that's what he does and the hammer never leaves his hand. Even with CIS off the fight will be over before Thor can toss the hammer.

Prove that Thor's combat speed is faster than Gorgon or Red.

Originally posted by Mindset
Hmmm, who do I troll, Rage or the Wolverine brigand?

This is why I hate these threads. 🙁

Thought we had something special.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm

Yes, unlike you I don't ignore 99.9% of Thor canon. Do you have a pamphlet I can read to know which Thor feats matter?

Peak human combat speed at best, really dude? I'm not even going to bother.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
CIS on Thor slugs it out like a bruiser because that's what he does and the hammer never leaves his hand. Even with CIS off the fight will be over before Thor can toss the hammer.

Prove that Thor's combat speed is faster than Gorgon or Red.

So it's clear you don't read much Thor if any at all. Thor's tossed his hammer so many times I devoted an entire section to it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He chased down a sports car on foot and was said to be faster than Daredevil. His speed is also on par with Wolverine's who is established as being faster than Thor.

Thor was said to have ftl reflexes.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Thor was said to have ftl reflexes.

It's been shown he does multiple times at that.

But no, clearly, we'll judge Thor soley on the fight with Wolverine, as that fight is clearly the measuring stick of how Thor handles any and all foes, especially the Wolvie-centric ones. I mean, it's not even subtle anymore, guys.

C'mon.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Peak human combat speed at best, really dude? I'm not even going to bother.

Don't kind yourself, you aren't bothering because there is nothing to support your claim... that is unless you believe those examples of Thor blocking lasers are proof of FLT reflexes like OneDumb does? In which case Punisher has FTL reflexes!!!! 😱

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Thor was said to have ftl reflexes.

"As fast as lightening" != FLT reflexes. Provide me a single example where Thor is stated to have FTL reflexes.

Thor moved too fast for Heimdall's senses.

/thread.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Don't kind yourself, you aren't bothering because there is nothing to support your claim... that is unless you believe those examples of Thor blocking lasers are proof of FLT reflexes like OneDumb does? In which case Punisher has FTL reflexes!!!! 😱

Silly little man. I'm not going to bother. Sort it out for yourself:

Dodging a blow from Juggernaut? Easy.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor6.jpg

Thor knocks out the original Black Knight's lance out of his hands faster than the bolas could ensnare him causing the Black Knight to exclaim "I've never seen such speed... such power!!".
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/KnightSpeed.jpg

Fast enough to swing his hammer and deflect multiple bullets fired at him and the Avengers.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Blocksbullets.jpg

Faster than a speeding bullet. Goes on to spin his hammer to defend Jane Foster from a volley of bullets.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsBullet1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsBullet2.jpg

Moves with blinding speed.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsAtBlindingSpeed.jpg

Illustrates impressive reflexes when he encounters and dodges multiple traps.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsToTraps1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsToTraps2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsToTraps4.jpg

Shows impressive reaction time by dodging a shot from Radioactive Man at point blank range.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DodgesGun.jpg

Illustrates his considerable speed when he saves a woman moments away with death. She mistakes him for a gust of wind.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsCarAccident1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsCarAccident2.jpg

Too fast for a group of Asgardian warriors to react to.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsToFastForAsgardians1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsToFastForAsgardians2.jpg

Races across a park at super speed.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg

Shocks the Thing with his speed while weakened.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DodgesThing.jpg

Punks El Toro Rojo the Deviant with his speed.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactstoElToro1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactstoElToro2.jpg

Dodges the Hulk's attack so swiftly that ol' Jade Jaws has no idea where Thor went.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor1fight10.jpg

Seizes his hammer before Hulk can react, proving that when it comes to speed, there is no doubt who is faster.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor1fight8.jpg

Dodges a blast of fire from Fafnir.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsFire1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsFire2.jpg

Catches Zefra, a creation of the High Evolutionary who was gifted with great super speed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZefra.jpg

Mongoose learns the meaning of speed when Thor spins his body at velocities beyond his ability to grasp.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsMongoose1.jpg

Shows impressive reflexes and movement speed when he deals with current Quicksilver. Current Quicksilver is as fast or maybe even faster than light under this writer.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver3.jpg

Reacts fast enough to turn around and destroy a missile shot at his back.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactstoMissle.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactstoMissle2.jpg

Grabs a fired tank shell out of mid air.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThrowsTanks1.jpg

Snatches a fired missile out of mid air before it hits innocent bystanders.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactstoMissile3.jpg

Moves so fast he becomes a blur of motion.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed2.jpg

Zuras -the fastest of the New Immortals- is outmaneuvered by Thor and his great speed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZuras1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZuras2.jpg
Note: Zuras is fast enough to speed blitz Balder.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZuras3.jpg

Earth 712 Hyperion attempts and fails to blitz Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion5.jpg

Punks Hermes and shows some decent reflexes when he destroys Ares' spears.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsHermes1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsHermes2.jpg

Thor is able to track and see Hermes the God of Speed -even Captain Marvel in her energy form who possesses light speed reflexes could not- and then manages to grab him in Olympus.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CatchesHermes.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/CatchesHermes.jpg
Note: To give you an idea as to how fast Hermes is, here he is able to handle Makkari in a battle that lasts for less than a second.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CatchesHermes2.jpg

Adam Warlock acknowledges Thor's incredible speed, exclaiming "He moves like the lightning he commands."
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer6.jpg

Shows that he has the swiftness of lightning when Hela is unable to even lay a hand on Thor.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorspeed1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorspeed2.jpg

Thor is a blur when he carves a giant trench in a mountainside "..almost faster than mere mortals eyes can follow..." mere moments before a city is consumed in lava.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg

Digs a trench around a very large crowd before anyone could escape. Notice how Quicksilver begins running before Thor starts creating the trench, and is trapped like everybody else.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesTrench1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesTrench2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesTrench3.jpg

Illustrates his impressive reaction time once more when he saves Barlow from the Cobalt Cannon's blast with a split seconds to spare.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsSplitSecond.jpg

Strikes Heimdall faster than the eyes could follow.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorFasterthantheEye.jpg

Easily dodges and outraces a psychic based Phoenix blast at point blank range.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsPhoenixBlast1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsPhoenixBlast2.jpg

Easily dodges a possessed Mjolnir unexpectedly zooming in on his head.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsMjolnirDodge2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsMjolnirDodge.jpg

Shows impressive reflexes and speed when he tosses a possessed Mjolnir across a room and catches it a moment before it hits an innocent person.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/CatchesMjolnir.jpg

In an amazing display of speed Thor manages to intercept Cobra's poison darts within a split-second before they hit Jane. The aforementioned darts were fired before Thor was even inside the room.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsCobra1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsCobra1.jpg

Reacts and changes direction at the speed of thought.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsSpeedofThought.jpg

In the space of one and one fifth of a second, is able to fly down and strike the pavement creating a shockwave that diverts a truck.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesShockwave.jpg

Strikes an opponent in between microseconds.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsMicroSecond.jpg

Spins his entire body at twice the speed of light.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SpinsMjolnir2xlight.jpg

While groggy -from being fused with the ground- Thor is able to block a telepathic blast from the Phoenix. His arms are at his side even after the blast was fired.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRachelPhoenix2.jpg
Note: The fact that telepathy and the speed of thought have been stated to be as fast or even faster than light on different occasions -it is even noted as instantaneous here- would suggest that this is a showing of faster than light reflexes.

Thor engages in combat with Skuttlebutt, dodging and attacking while they were traveling at speeds far faster than light.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight4.jpg

"How can I fight 'Im? He's everywhere at once!!" is how Crusher Creel describes Thor who beats him down using his incredible fighting skills.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan31.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan32.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan34.jpg