The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And Wolverine routinely hits people faster than Thor. Wolverine is faster because his speed feats are better. They've been posted for comparison and there are even better speed feats posted in the respect thread that I didn't want to have to hunt for.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And Wolverine routinely hits people faster than Thor. Wolverine is faster because his speed feats are better. They've been posted for comparison and there are even better speed feats posted in the respect thread that I didn't want to have to hunt for.

The people Thor has tagged are far more impressive speed wise than those Logan has, let's not kid ourselves. There is no comparison. And the whole "it's better/they win/Thor loses because it's Wolverine/Wolverine's rogues" is more than tired.

Fact of the matter is, with Mjolnir, and the decades worth of feats and showings Thor has, he's going to annihilate Omega Red and Gorgon. They don't have the feats to endure Thor's mid-level showings, much less his higher end ones. And throwing Wolvie's feats at me without showing me OR's or Gorgon's doesn't really prove your point at all. Stop low-balling and ignoring what you don't like and get back to me.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
The best way to figure it out is gage who's fought the faster opponents. Thor has fought beings way outside of Wolverine's league of speed. Can't see Wolverine Tagging the Silver Surfer in a fight in space. or Gladiator.

Wolverine has fought Gladiator, Gladiator even said no force in the universe had given the Imperial Guard as much trouble as Wolverine. Hell in GotGv1 he fought Kallark for a week before he was finally killed. Anyway both Gladiator and Silver Surfer have both engaged in prolonged slug fests with Hulk and he has no trouble hitting either of them... and on more than one occassion Wolverine has shown the ability to dance around the Hulk.

I do know that Mongoose used to run circles around Thor. Thor couldn't touch him at all.

http://www.comicvine.com/mongoose/29-25662/

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Just because OR can defend against Colossus (who's lower cl 100) doesn't mean he can with Thor who would crush Colossus like a tin can.

Colossus isn't some weak kid anymore and even when he was he was fighting guys like Gladiator in h2h arguably more effective than Thor did.

Originally posted by Mindset
Hmmm, who do I troll, Rage or the Wolverine brigand?

This is why I hate these threads. 🙁

decisions decisions... 😛

But honeslty, I believe in you, you're a pro at this, you can do both! thumbsup

Youre always there for me.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Both have broken in their fight.

Originally posted by jinzin
They did in the comic of the fight, the next comic showed the sword in one piece, I think it was just an artists mistake, y'know, unless Grasscutter can heal itself.

Originally posted by Mindset
Youre always there for me.

I do what I can for my KMC vets.

@ the thread. Thor's speed doesn't matter, OR can just hold him place, Gorgon walks up to him and stabs him...
Not really much of a fight.

Or Red can just stab him with the ends of his tenticals.

But yeah, Gorgon should be faster in melee than Thor. Thor supporters couldn't even prove that Thor had superior combat speed to Logan two years ago in a feat for feat pissing contest, but you want us to ignore Thor stating ON PANEL that Wolverine's faster than him in a melee fight?
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seems...... convenient.

While they are faster than him normally Thor has shown hes fast enough to hit them same with Wolverine. This fight though he Loses and pretty badly since its just melee. With his other pwoers he'd win but with just him trying to brawl them Red holds him and Gorgon cuts him up.

http://img215.imageshack.us/f/secret22006.jpg/

Either it's a really small sword or it's still broken. 😮

Originally posted by thanos-prime
http://img215.imageshack.us/f/secret22006.jpg/

Either it's a really small sword or it's still broken. 😮

Originally posted by jinzin
the thread. Thor's speed doesn't matter, OR can just hold him place, Gorgon walks up to him and stabs him...
Not really much of a fight.

Or Red can just stab him with the ends of his tenticals.

But yeah, Gorgon should be faster in melee than Thor. Thor supporters couldn't even prove that Thor had superior combat speed to Logan two years ago in a feat for feat pissing contest, but you want us to ignore Thor stating ON PANEL that Wolverine's faster than him in a melee fight?
😕
seems...... convenient.

Originally posted by jalek moye
While they are faster than him normally Thor has shown hes fast enough to hit them same with Wolverine. This fight though he Loses and pretty badly since its just melee. With his other pwoers he'd win but with just him trying to brawl them Red holds him and Gorgon cuts him up.

facepalm

My god. At least pretend you guys know something about the character.

Gorgon will just walk up and stab Thor, Omega Red's tentacles will stab Thor, Omega Red will hold Thor down while Gorgon stabs him?

What the f*ck?

Gorgon would be lucky to break Thor's skin on a good day (For Thor). His not doing any more damage than the Disir did.

Originally posted by jinzin
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Colossus isn't some weak kid anymore and even when he was he was fighting guys like Gladiator in h2h arguably more effective than Thor did.

Oh please, Colossus' strength is insignificant to Thor. Surviving against the weakest portrayal of Gladiator (IIRC that same writer had Corsair one shot him with his blaster and was also responsible for the Gambit scene years later) hardly proves anything.

i know plenty about thor and the BS argument that a adamantium wont do sh#$ to him makes me laugh.. he will get sliced cut off all the same if the blade connects.

Plus Omega red sucking in his life force would allow him to also harm Thor with his Carbonadium.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm

My god. At least pretend you guys know something about the character.

Gorgon will just walk up and stab Thor, Omega Red's tentacles will stab Thor, Omega Red will hold Thor down while Gorgon stabs him?

1. That's not what he said.
2. Omega Red isn't doing anything besides getting stomped in a brawl with Thor. At his highest portrayals, he'd last for a time but only if Thor humors him as he does most opponents.

Originally posted by King Castle
i know plenty about thor and the BS argument that a adamantium wont do sh#$ do him makes me laugh.. he will get sliced cut off all the same if the blade connects.

Plus Omega red sucking in his life force would allow him to also harm Thor with his Carbonadium.

Adamantium is tougher than Thor's skin. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean Gorgon can slice Thor up. People are acting as if his skin is made out of butter or some shit with the claims the midget loving brigade -i.e. Skrank- have been tossing out.

No life force absorption. And I'll laugh my ass off at anyone claiming that using the ability on Thor won't end up with Omega Red dead.

Originally posted by jalek moye
While they are faster than him normally Thor has shown hes fast enough to hit them same with Wolverine. This fight though he Loses and pretty badly since its just melee. With his other pwoers he'd win but with just him trying to brawl them Red holds him and Gorgon cuts him up.

lol yeah, I find it humoous how often the "who's faster" argument tends to come up in a forum fight even when the speed gap isn't that great, or great at all, and it definitely isn't a deciding factor in the fight lol.

But in Gorgon's case, he should be significantly faster than Thor in a melee exchange.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. That's not what he said.
2. Omega Red isn't doing anything besides getting stomped in a brawl with Thor. At his highest portrayals, he'd last for a time but only if Thor humors him as he does most opponents.

Adamantium is tougher than Thor's skin. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean Gorgon can slice Thor up. People are acting as if his skin is made out of butter or some shit with the claims the midget loving brigade -i.e. Skrank- have been tossing out.

No life force absorption. And I'll laugh my ass off at anyone claiming that using the ability on Thor won't end up with Omega Red dead.

Please. Adamantium has carved up Thanos. Thor. Absorbing Man. Every member of the Wrecking Crew. Onslaught. Count Nefaria. Even Elder Gods. An Adamantium sword will cut Thor as easily as a standard combat knife would cut your or I, pretending otherwise is disingenuous.

Just like Rogue died when she drained Thor right? dur

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm

My god. At least pretend you guys know something about the character.

Gorgon will just walk up and stab Thor, Omega Red's tentacles will stab Thor, Omega Red will hold Thor down while Gorgon stabs him?

What the f*ck?

Gorgon would be lucky to break Thor's skin on a good day (For Thor). His not doing any more damage than the Disir did.

Red has Carbonadium tenticals with superstrength, there's not one single reason why they can't stab Thor.

Gorgon's sporting an adamantium sword for this fight, again no reason he can't stab Thor.

I took crap from you people for YEARS for telling you that Wolverine could cut Thor, I brought up example after example of him being cut, shot, stabbed, and you wanted to ignore it, and criticizem me instead because some of them were "ambiguous" or "because of magic" even though that wasn't specifically stated.

We had other examples that pertained to Thor and Wolverine specifically but it was "non canon" and also ignored.

Now we have canon material which states and shows that Thor can be cut by Wolverine and that after 2/3 glancing swipes that he doesn't think his durability can hold out for much longer, and you STILL want us to ignore it?

Dude, grow the f*ck up, even if you don't agree with my opinion on the fight that's no reason to belittle me and my knowledge of the character.
Even if all I knew about Thor was what I've seen on KMC it would be enough to make a semi-informed decision, I've kept up with a majority of Thor's career for years now.

I don't think Thor can tank being stabbed several times by people trying to kill him and effectively fight thereafter, I don't think his durability can just no sell Adamantium weaponry and I have plenty of reasons for thinking either of those two assertions a wealth of which COME FROM THOR COMIC BOOKS.

Good lord, I realize we're dealing with one of your faves here, but you think given our relationship on the boards you would be at least a LITTLE more decent with your peers before putting your ass-hat on. 😐