The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And seeing as Wolverine has had no trouble cutting people more durable than Thor, the Odin Son is still in the exact same boat as Punisher despite his durability difference.
Horsesh1t. We saw exactly what happened when Wolverine went slicey-dicey on Thor. Kitty-scratches. Ironic that you somehow have to now argue in favor of Thor's reflexes preventing significant damage when before you were compeltely trying to act like he wouldn't have the reflexes to do so against the "obviously faster" Wolverine.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't need to drag characters down to Wolverine's level, what I do - which you should try - is acknowledge the abilities and histories of both characters.
Yeah. Like you ignore Thor's career of dealing with speedsters and superspeedsters, his established top-tier durability, and a literal on-panel fight where Wolverine manages to do very little. Face it, all you do now is try to equivocate and drag Thor down to Wolverine's level. It doesn't matter if it's speed, because now it's his durability. Somehow... you manage to do this when he have an on-panel fight depicting otherwise.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor isn't durable enough to turn Wolverine's claws, few are, and he isn't one of them.
Except he did on-panel. Multiple times. I get it. It isn't that Thor two-shotted Wolverine. It's Wolverine failing to do much other than kitty-scratch Thor that leads you to completely ignore the fight and/or paint it as something entirely different. That's where the butt-hurt comes from, doesn't it?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, but they did cut through Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. 😎
but thor's far more durable than thanos...don't cha know? 😱

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Horsesh1t. We saw exactly what happened when Wolverine went slicey-dicey on Thor. Kitty-scratches. Ironic that you somehow have to now argue in favor of Thor's reflexes preventing damage when before you were compeltely trying to act like he wouldn't do so against Wolverine. Yeah. Like you ignore Thor dealing with speedsters and superspeedsters, his entire career of top-tier durability, and a literal on-panel fight where Wolverine manages to do very little. Face it, all you do now is try to equivocate and drag Thor down to Wolverine's level. It doesn't matter if it's speed, because now it's his durability. Somehow... you manage to do this when he have an on-panel fight depicting otherwise. Except he did on-panel. Multiple times. I get it. It isn't that Thor two-shotted Wolverine. It's Wolverine failing to do much other than kitty-scratch Thor that leads you to completely ignore the fight and/or paint it as something entirely different. That's where the butt-hurt comes from, doesn't it?

There is no on panel fight depicting other wise. What is shown on panel is Wolverine landing glancing blows and doing trivial damage. That's what we saw on panel. Deciding that Wolverine probably did connect and land flush, but Thor was just too is merely an assumption you have made with no evidence to support your bias. Regardless of how you feel, that isn't what happened on panel, and we aren't in the business of wild speculation. Wolverine was mind-controlled, he landed a few glancing blows which damaged Thor, that's what happened. Wolverine's claws have had no trouble damaging characters with superior durability than Thor, and in forum match they have no trouble with Thor either.

Post the scan where the narration or characters call them "glancing blows".

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There is no on panel fight depicting other wise. What is shown on panel is Wolverine landing glancing blows and doing trivial damage. That's what we saw on panel.
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deciding that Wolverine probably did connect and land flush, but Thor was just too is merely an assumption you have made with no evidence to support your bias.
Except Thor's durability is literally stated to be the very reason in the fight, not his godly reflexes or Wolverine's imaginary claw retractions. What? Thor's aggrandizing statements aren't good enough for you anymore?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Regardless of how you feel, that isn't what happened on panel, and aren't in the business of wild speculation. Wolverine was mind-controlled, he landed a few glancing blows which damaged Thor, that's what happened. Wolverine's claws have had no trouble damaging characters with superior durability than Thor, and in forum match they have no trouble with Thor either.
Wild speculation?! Wolverine literally kitty-scratches Thor. That's not up for debate. I didn't realize the most glaringly obvious fact that can be drawn from that fight fills you with disgust. Your disgust is no excuse for your utter disregard.

There are other things to be butt-hurt over, not this. This is approaching "Wolverine can't get shot through the eye" levels of phail.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post the scan where the narration or characters call them "glancing blows".

Post the scan where the narrator or character says Wolverine landed his attacks flush. dur

Originally posted by Starscream M
but thor's far more durable than thanos...don't cha know? 😱

Not really, but so what? Bone claw Wolverine cut Thanos, and some no name alien with a typical axe did.

From what I've seen, Wolverine penetrating his skin should be feasible. Doesn't make much sense but that's comics for you.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There is no on panel fight depicting other wise. What is shown on panel is Wolverine landing glancing blows and doing trivial damage. That's what we saw on panel. Deciding that Wolverine probably did connect and land flush, but Thor was just too is merely an assumption you have made with no evidence to support your bias. Regardless of how you feel, that isn't what happened on panel, and aren't in the business of wild speculation. Wolverine was mind-controlled, he landed a few glancing blows which damaged Thor, that's what happened. Wolverine's claws have had no trouble damaging characters with superior durability than Thor, and in forum match they have no trouble with Thor either.

FFS. You suddenly decide to invent your own interpretation because it didn't go down the way you wanted it to. Please use some common sense Cap has been able to hurt Korvac with his bare hands we don't just decide that just because he doesn't KO somebody that his blows were glancing. Wolverine has also failed to cut people with comparable durability and even then were not arguing that Thor can't be cut they just weren't serious.

Wolverine stabbed on Thor's back downward. There was no significant damage.

/discussion

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Post the scan where the narrator or character says Wolverine landed his attacks flush. dur

IOW, you're making things up to make...just like when you said that Daken "ate a godblast".

It seems to me that the Thread has run it's course, first I've read that Thor isn't fast enough, nor does he have the reflexes to deal with the likes of Wolverine and Gorgon.

Now I'm reading that it wasn't Thor's durability that prevented him taking damage it was glancing blows caused by Thor being battle savvy enough and having the reflex speed to roll with the attack and take only superficial damage.

Surely this means that if Thor isn't fast enough then he's durable enough to take hits from Logan's claws or if he isn't durable enough he's fast enough to roll with them and not take heavy damage.

Either way it seems the case for Thor standing up to Gorgon's speed, skill and weapon has been made by the people arguing the side of Thor loses?

I have a question, if we say it was Thor rolling with the hit and taking glancing blows, would the pro Gorgon people say he could do that with Gorgon too?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wolverine stabbed on Thor's back downward. There was no significant damage.

/discussion

Wolverine jumped on Thor's back. There was no significant damage... because his claws were retracted.

Originally posted by BigSid
It seems to me that the Thread has run it's course, first I've read that Thor isn't fast enough, nor does he have the reflexes to deal with the likes of Wolverine and Gorgon.

Now I'm reading that it wasn't Thor's durability that prevented him taking damage it was glancing blows caused by Thor being battle savvy enough and having the reflex speed to roll with the attack and take only superficial damage.

Surely this means that if Thor isn't fast enough then he's durable enough to take hits from Logan's claws or if he isn't durable enough he's fast enough to roll with them and not take heavy damage.

Either way it seems the case for Thor standing up to Gorgon's speed, skill and weapon has been made by the people arguing the side of Thor loses?

I have a question, if we say it was Thor rolling with the hit and taking glancing blows, would the pro Gorgon people say he could do that with Gorgon too?

Gorgon's faster than Wolverine. Gorgon is telepath, meaning he will know Thor's move before he makes it. Gorgon's weapon has a much larger reach than Wolverine's claws. Gorgon isn't mind-controlled and operating at a diminished capacity.

Originally posted by Deadline
FFS. You suddenly decide to invent your own interpretation because it didn't go down the way you wanted it to. Please use some common sense Cap has been able to hurt Korvac with his bare hands we don't just decide that just because he doesn't KO somebody that his blows were glancing. Wolverine has also failed to cut people with comparable durability and even then were not arguing that Thor can't be cut they just weren't serious.

Think of a better analogy. 😆

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine jumped on Thor's back. There was no significant damage... because his claws were retracted.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Thor wins.

He's fast enough to hit them and strong enough for the hits to hurt.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wins.

He's fast enough to hit them and strong enough for the hits to hurt.

Thor loses, he isn't fast enough to avoid getting hit, nor durable enough to avoid taking massive damage from Adamantium / Carbonadium weaponry.

Based on what, him taking slight damage from an angry Wolverine while trying to reason with him?

Not good enough.

The lengths Skrank goes to just to support the pro Wolverine side is just mindblowing.