Originally posted by Starscream M
you're right, walter is not quite as durable as colossus. he bleeds much more easily.Thing could do alot of internal damage to Walter that he couldn't to colossus.
Ha. Just because he bleeds on the outside doesn't mean Thing could do more internal damage than to Rasputin. Try again.
Originally posted by Starscream M
what do you mean? why would he be dead?
Just playing with you. 'Cause you know, steel hard skin is like a paper tissue in comics. Piotr's skin is not actual steel, it's much more durable.
Arguing that he has better blunt force durability just because he doesn't bleed on the outside is stupid.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWcolossus has better durability period than sasquatch
Arguing that he has better blunt force durability just because he doesn't bleed on the outside is stupid.
but sasquatch may have a stronger chin...ie take more hits to the head before getting KOed. but otherwise, colossus is more durable in every other sense.
Originally posted by -K-M-
?Walter held his own against Alpha Flight. Alpha Flight > Frightful Four. yeah and? I think people are avoiding the detail Thing doesn't have an amazing track record against class 100 fighters. Sure he gives them a fight, but does he prevail? More often then not he doesn't
Was Walter in human form in this fight then?
Originally posted by -K-M-
Gotta love the Thing fans reasoning, don't post Thing feats and merely ignore Walters. Why does Thing win apparently? he has heart. If only that was enough.haha great logic. Did the fight end? No. Was Walter bloodlusted? No. Did Thing ko Walter? No. Did Thing kill Walter? No. So your reasoning is flawed.
Now did you see the fight between an enraged Walter against exo-suit Thing? I imagine not.
Walter did all he could to try and put The Thing down. When it wasn't working he didn't want to fight anymore...
There is zero point posting fights with an exo-suit Thing because... that's not The Thing!
Sure, Sasquatch beat the Super Skrull (who was dying of cancer at the time), but the skrull's strength was based on an early weaker version of The Thing. How do I know this? Because John Byrne himself (who wrote and drew the story, and co-created Sasquatch) said it in the letters page that dealt with that issue of Alpha Flight. The same letters page where Byrne states that Sasquatch is not stronger than the Thing!
I don't have the scan, but I'm sure you have the issue yourself.
I like how KM uses all nonrelevant examples to prove Sasquatch's supposed superiority
- beating a cancer stricken skrull
- beating a non-canon alternate universe (read: weaker) version of hulk
- and prob tanarqing out to beat the great beasts
this just shows that Sas has no real feats that show he is actually better than thing
Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't think he's strong enough to crush thing's skull or his internal organs...all of which is protected by his hard out rock bodything could crush sas's skull or even his internal organs.
So. Sassy's strength capable of completely halting and chucking a 250 ton jet-plane with its engines at full throttle is, in your opinion, not enough to crush Thing's skull?
You do know Thing's hide is not unbreakable, don't you?
Originally posted by Metalmanx250 tons is not really that impressive for a CL100
So. Sassy's strength capable of completely halting and chucking a 250 ton jet-plane with its engines at full throttle is, in your opinion, not enough to crush Thing's skull?You do know Thing's hide is not unbreakable, don't you?
most class 100s are actually vastly stronger than 100 tons
yes, I know his hide is not unbreakable, but it is very difficult to break, and I have rarely seen anything besides the very top layer breaking off...which is not enough to cause critical injury
Originally posted by Starscream M
250 tons is not really that impressive for a CL100most class 100s are actually vastly stronger than 100 tons
yes, I know his hide is not unbreakable, but it is very difficult to break, and I have rarely seen anything besides the very top layer breaking off...which is not enough to cause critical injury
It always starts with the top layer.
Originally posted by Starscream M
250 tons is not really that impressive for a CL100
if the plane was in motion, I believe the strength necessary to halt it would increase exponentially...
I'm no mathematician, but at the very least, it would take well over CL250 to stop and throw a 250 ton jet that was in motion
EDIT: ok, not exponential, momentum = weight * velocity
Originally posted by Starscream M
you're right, walter is not quite as durable as colossus. he bleeds much more easily.Thing could do alot of internal damage to Walter that he couldn't to colossus.
You do realize Thing bleeds and his hide has been chipped and crack quiet abit right?
Originally posted by Starscream M
he def couldwalter's internal organs are still vulnerable...colossus internal organs are steel hard.
On-panel Walter was healing his internal organs in seconds...even impressing AR Vision who was attacking his insides.
Originally posted by BUSTER1
Was Walter in human form in this fight then?
In the body of the villian Smart Alec. At this time his original body was destroyed as Snowbird's Sasuatch form destroyed it so his soul was jumping into different bodies and into the Box armor as he briefly used to use it when he died the first time.
Originally posted by Batroc
Walter did all he could to try and put The Thing down. When it wasn't working he didn't want to fight anymore...There is zero point posting fights with an exo-suit Thing because... that's not The Thing!
Sure, Sasquatch beat the Super Skrull (who was dying of cancer at the time), but the skrull's strength was based on an early weaker version of The Thing. How do I know this? Because John Byrne himself (who wrote and drew the story, and co-created Sasquatch) said it in the letters page that dealt with that issue of Alpha Flight. The same letters page where Byrne states that Sasquatch is not stronger than the Thing!
I don't have the scan, but I'm sure you have the issue yourself.
As noted in the issue, even the page before the fight it comments Walter wasn't at full-strength and that was before his upgrade too. He didn't quit as it wasn't working. Please read the text m'kay? Plus talking is what Walter does that's in character for him.
Nice you are ignoring the detail where Mr.Fantastic stated multiple times it's nearly his equal to his original form. So yes it does apply, and yes Walter easily destroyed him when enraged
I don't...so prove it. You don't seem to back up anything in this thread 😬
Originally posted by Starscream M
I like how KM uses all nonrelevant examples to prove Sasquatch's supposed superiority- beating a cancer stricken skrull
- beating a non-canon alternate universe (read: weaker) version of hulk
- and prob tanarqing out to beat the great beasts
this just shows that Sas has no real feats that show he is actually better than thing
Non-relevant?
-The cancer only affected him at the END of the fight. Not during. So fail
-Interesting. So you know Hulk's powerlevel then? Prove it.
-He 100% wasn't, clearly you didn't read the issue. So once again..fail
Were those the only examples I posted? No, not even close. haha hillarious. You have once again made yourself look like a joke.
Originally posted by inimalist
if the plane was in motion, I believe the strength necessary to halt it would increase exponentially...I'm no mathematician, but at the very least, it would take well over CL250 to stop and throw a 250 ton jet that was in motion
EDIT: ok, not exponential, momentum = weight * velocity
and he threw it while the engines were on 1000 ft...and he did it with ease too.
Starscream doesn't understand physics or biology so ignore him.