I think they are gonna give him some good showings but not up to his stuff in HP/OWAW. I doubt he would ever get to that power level ever again considering he was only able to return with help from Lex. In the beginning of Steel #1 the doctor is talking like Superman has died fighting DD, so well see how the story progresses..
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Did carver just say... Zeus negated his healing factor with his lighting punches... Are there scans of this being stated because the comic I read said no such thing.
Though nothing has been stated, Zeus has done something more than just his physical beating of Hulk-as he still hasn't fully recovered, days after the kicking. Hulk is so weak, at the moment, that he dare not turn back to Banner or else his injuries will kill him.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Has it been stated Zeus canceled out Hulks healing factor or is carver being butthurt again? Doomsday loses
Lol... you are my boy iceman (no homo).
As for your question... its pretty obvious it was canceled. As soon as Zeus hit Hulk with that lightning attack, every hit/punch that Zeus hit Hulk with, the damage did not heal at all... he kept all of the bruises which was shown throughout the fight.
He canceled his healing factor buddy.
@Galan
I think the maxed out theory is bogus imo as we have seen him completely burn out which is maxing out and then getting angry enough to far surpass any previous levels we have ever seen from the Hulk.
I think Zeus being Zeus prevented it temporarily from hitting it's normal levels.
The comment after when he was about to be tortured also leans towards my reasoning as anger wouldn't spike his healing up as it had in the past.
Originally posted by Galan007
^ except hulk didn't get hit by any lightning attacks.my opinion based on what was shown/stated: hulk's HF was simply maxed out due to the extreme ass kicking zeus gave him. he wasn't able to heal as fast as he was taking on damage.
Possibly but the thing that is making me question that is recently, Hulk power is completely depleted.
I am also referring to the first lightning attack Zeus hit Hulk wit that dropped him.
Let's not pretend like Hulk hasn't been through a beat down from a powerful foe before. Zom Strange alone was punching him so hard that it was punching holes through his body.
The thing is, right after that lightning blast, Hulk didn't heal from one single attack that was dished out by Zeus and let's not say that he didn't have time, because he did. Let's remember, Zeus punched him off of the cliff, Hulk helped his teammates take out the lobster monster and he talked with them, etc... but yet he was still damaged.
Originally posted by Galan007in the issue prior to the fight he sure did:
^ except hulk didn't get hit by any lightning attacks.my opinion based on what was shown/stated: hulk's HF was simply maxed out due to the extreme ass kicking zeus gave him. he wasn't able to heal as fast as he was taking on damage.
("i hate spunk"...... really?)
imo, zeus smote him for his hubris and weakened him like he did the titans. he even punished him like he did prometheus for his hubris with the whole birds eating the liver thing
Originally posted by quanchi112when exactly was hulk supposed to get angry? while he was getting beaten within an inch of his life? you see, unlike most others hulk faces zeus didn't just poke the beehive and stir shit up... he dropped a gawd damn house on it.
@GalanI think the maxed out theory is bogus imo as we have seen him completely burn out which is maxing out and then getting angry enough to far surpass any previous levels we have ever seen from the Hulk.
I think Zeus being Zeus prevented it temporarily from hitting it's normal levels.
The comment after when he was about to be tortured also leans towards my reasoning as anger wouldn't spike his healing up as it had in the past.
now is it possible that the magics in zeus' punches/lightning somehow negated hulk's HF? i suppose so. was it outright stated, though? no.
Originally posted by carver9no, he really wasn't.
Let's remember, Zeus punched him off of the cliff, Hulk helped his teammates take out the lobster monster and he talked with them, etc... but yet he was still damaged.
Originally posted by psycho gundamit's certainly possible that the lightning strike in that scene did weaken hulk. but claiming it cancelled out his HF entirely (the point i'm arguing) is completely baseless.
imo, zeus smote him for his hubris and weakened him like he did the titans. he even punished him like he did prometheus for his hubris with the whole birds eating the liver thing
But after this said lighting attack IIRC.. didn't Zeus state he would fight Hulk on his terms.. and Hulk punched Zeus and knocked him backwards? Seemed to me like he was healed from that initial attack and was up ready to fight. I saw no indication via narration or artwork that his HF was negated by lighting
it's the way zeus operates, even in the greek myth.
cronus committed patricide because his father ouranos tried to kill him and his siblings simply because he didn't want to be challenged. cronus then ate zeus and his siblings cause he didn't want to be usurped or challenged (and at some point perma-b&'d hades to the underworld), zeus obviously busted out and banished him to tarterus with the other titans (minus the ones he punished in a more personal fashion) and made sure his children couldn't step to him.
that's how zeus rolls
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosimaybe it wasn't set out to kill him, which is my point
But after this said lighting attack IIRC.. didn't Zeus state he would fight Hulk on his terms.. and Hulk punched Zeus and knocked him backwards? Seemed to me like he was healed from that initial attack and was up ready to fight. I saw no indication via narration or artwork that his HF was negated by lighting
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
But after this said lighting attack IIRC.. didn't Zeus state he would fight Hulk on his terms.. and Hulk punched Zeus and knocked him backwards? Seemed to me like he was healed from that initial attack and was up ready to fight. I saw no indication via narration or artwork that his HF was negated by lighting
His recent showings is proof enough that his healing factor was negated since, well, it hasn't returned yet. Its going to have to take some type of outside source to bring it back or Zeus himself.
Originally posted by carver9i suggest you read incredible hulks #624. hulk reverted back to banner, and was just fine -- and as hulk he also healed from miscellaneous wounds sustained in the very same issue. bottom line: his HF is intact, and it HAS been working... his battle with zeus simply maxed it out
His recent showings is proof enough that his healing factor was negated since, well, it hasn't returned yet. Its going to have to take some type of outside source to bring it back or Zeus himself.
it's very similiar to wolverine's HF being maxed out after magneto pulled the adamantium from his body.
Originally posted by Galan007
i suggest you read incredible hulks #624. hulk reverted back to banner, and was just fine -- and as hulk he also healed from miscellaneous wounds sustained in the very same issue. bottom line: his HF is intact, and it HAS been working... his battle with zeus simply maxed it outit's very similiar to wolverine's HF being maxed out after magneto pulled the adamantium from his body.
I can agree with this.
Pak created new BS magic for Zeus to go along with the PIS story
Pak is a moron
On one hand he writes that they have a fist fight and at same time he lets Zeus use his magic twice
First to amp his physical strength and second to create these magic punches that somehow stops Hulk regen healing
Its crap writing from a crap writer
It was PIS writing in the first place when Zeus was given this power to amp physical strength
Hercules has always been known to be the strongest Olympian not Zeus. If Zeus can up his strength, what is the point in Hercules character?
