Doomsday vs Zeus fist fight

Originally posted by Galan007
you seem to have taken that comment as: "you've been hit by zeus, therefore your powers were mysteriously neutered." i took it as: "zeus beat the shit out of you, therefore it will take you a while to recover."

either way, there's no proof that hulk's powers were magically sapped in his -physical- confrontation with zeus. based on what has been revealed thus far, he was simply receiving damage FAR faster than his HF could repair it (hence the overly long recovery time.)

As far as i'm concerned, there is nothing wrong wih Hulk getting his head completely kicked in by a very powerful skyfather, in a 1 on 1 tear up. But it was obvious the Zeus did something, probably after the beating, to reduce his HF-this would be to teach Hulk a lesson about messing with the gods. By the time Hulk awoke to find himself chained up, his HF should've totally healed him up-going by previous examples-so enabling him to be strong enough to break his chains. She-Hulk ripped the chains, with no significant effort, to free Hulk-so even if he was only at, say, 50% he should be able to free himself.
As for possibility, that the beating itself overtaxed Hulk's HF-I'm sorry but that dog don't hunt. The actual injuries the Hulk sustained in the Zeus fight amounted to broken ribs, collapsed lungs and concussion-his HF has taken care of similar and worse damage with no problem. In WWH he had holes punched through him by Zom/Strange and kept fighting. Professor Hulk was stripped down to a nearly a skeleton by Vector of the U Foes and he recovered in seconds-no overtaxing there. Maestro used a gun, designed to kill him, to blast several holes through Professor Hulk and then delivered a vicious beating with his fists-as Maestro was twice a strong as his younger self this was similar, though not as severe as the Zeus beating. He tricked Maestro into a time machine before Maestro could finish him and then a few minutes later was nearly fully healed.
As I said before, Zeus real punishment wasn't the beating itself, but what came after.

Back to topic though, Zeus hands DD his head

I think one of the differences here is that DD (especially HP DD) wouldn't stand around to talk smack with Zeus, nor give Zeus time to do likewise. He'd relentless attack Zeus and keep attacking until he either won or was utterly destroyed. That might put things in his favor. If DD is able to get the jump on Zeus and just start laying into him without mercy, then Zeus could very well be going down. Add in DD's bone spurs and he's also going to be doing more physical damage to Zeus then just Hulk's fists.

Not saying that Zeus has no chance, but I don't see this being quite the one-sided smackdown others apparently are.

Doomsday evolves a bed, a blood transfusion equipment, an assisted breathing respirator, and some comfy pillows after the beat down he gets here so he can rest up.

Originally posted by Newjak
Doomsday evolves a bed, a blood transfusion equipment, an assisted breathing respirator, and some comfy pillows after the beat down he gets here so he can rest up.

@buster Or simply put,neither Maestro not Vector could much the output of Zeus. a severely poisoned Odin one Shot koed Ulik. A kid Zeus one shot another foe of Thor's. then you have Hera commenting on how Zeus could just incinerate Hulk. Well instead of that, he channeled that power to amp his strength in a fist fight. Difference here is that Zeus hit his vital organs hard enough that the guy was puking up green goop which I assume is blood. whatever it was, when was the last time Hulk puked because of the damaged he sustained. If I recall correctly, part of his outer tissue was fillet off but not to a skeleton. His heart and brain didn't take the damage it did against Zeus. Even after they rescued him, his heart gave out and that he needed resuscitatiton. Hulk was lucky Pak didn't have Zeus one shot him.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
@buster Or simply put,neither Maestro not Vector could much the output of Zeus. a severely poisoned Odin one Shot koed Ulik. A kid Zeus one shot another foe of Thor's. then you have Hera commenting on how Zeus could just incinerate Hulk. Well instead of that, he channeled that power to amp his strength in a fist fight. Difference here is that Zeus hit his vital organs hard enough that the guy was puking up green goop which I assume is blood. whatever it was, when was the last time Hulk puked because of the damaged he sustained. If I recall correctly, part of his outer tissue was fillet off but not to a skeleton. His heart and brain didn't take the damage it did against Zeus. Even after they rescued him, his heart gave out and that he needed resuscitatiton. Hulk was lucky Pak didn't have Zeus one shot him.

If you check my post, i said nearly a skeleton-and anyway in that Vector incident Hulk did have a lot of tissue stripped away, not just skin. The amount of tissue regeneration required to heal back to normal would be greater than needed to heal from broken ribs and collapsed lungs. I know Professor Hulk wasn't knocked out by Vector's attack, but he wasn't taking skyfather hits to his head in that fight. If Zeus just left Hulk with a physical beating his HF, if operating at normal levels, would have healed right up before the Olympium vultures turned up to feed on him. Hulk's Hf doesn't stop just because he's unconscious.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
If you check my post, i said nearly a skeleton-and anyway in that Vector incident Hulk did have a lot of tissue stripped away, not just skin. The amount of tissue regeneration required to heal back to normal would be greater than needed to heal from broken ribs and collapsed lungs. I know Professor Hulk wasn't knocked out by Vector's attack, but he wasn't taking skyfather hits to his head in that fight. If Zeus just left Hulk with a physical beating his HF, if operating at normal levels, would have healed right up before the Olympium vultures turned up to feed on him. Hulk's Hf doesn't stop just because he's unconscious.

I'll put it this way there are the injuries Hulk sustained and they're are the ones he probably would have had if he didn't have a HF. I'm betting that what he saw Hulk receive in injuries was already after his HF got maxed out by getting hit by Zeus.

Originally posted by Newjak
It could be the case that Hulk's HF was working over time to not have Hulk get vaporized by Zeus' punches.

I'll put it this way there are the injuries Hulk sustained and they're are the ones he probably would have had if he didn't have a HF. I'm betting that what he saw Hulk receive in injuries was already after his HF got maxed out by getting hit by Zeus.

I assume your theory is that Hulk's HF was fully taxed before he got the "rib shatter" punch, as Zeus only hit him once more after that. Bearing in mind that most of Zeus' punches connected with Hulk's head, these "vapourizing" punches should have knocked Hulk out before he leapt back at Zeus and got his ribs caved in.

Originally posted by Newjak
It could be the case that Hulk's HF was working over time to not have Hulk get vaporized by Zeus' punches.

I'll put it this way there are the injuries Hulk sustained and they're are the ones he probably would have had if he didn't have a HF. I'm betting that what he saw Hulk receive in injuries was already after his HF got maxed out by getting hit by Zeus.

I think this is similar to Bor's fight with Odin force Thor where normally Thor would've been oneshot killed by Bor. Zeus did do something to Hulk's healing factor alright. He smacked Hulk so hard even Hulk's healing factor was damaged as a result and thus it's only operating at levels that would be enough to heal him for the vultures to continuously eat him alive. In Hulk 623, his healing factor was at 7 percent.

Everything currently put out that Zeus mystically did nothing to Hulk's hf is pure speculation. What's on panel is Zeus giving Hulk a beating so badly that it damaged Hulk's strength and hf. Those punches came from a being that could've incinerated Hulk and yet chose to use that power to boost his strength for a raw beating.

I can see Zeus nerfing the HF post-fight, to prolong Hulk's punishment. Given that he did somethign similar to Prometheus, that fits. But I agree that Zeus probably did force Hulk's HF to max out. I mean, the hulk fans are claiming Hulk can heal through getting his internal organs crushed by a skyfather gut-punching him.

Gimmie a break. durlaugh The fight was fine, Hulk didn't get killed, but Zeus wasn't trying to kill him. Zeus clearly demonstrated his superiority.

zom strange beat on the hulk and punched a hole right through that same stomach and the hole healed before hulk erased half of strange's medical education, all that happened after his campaign of whooping much ass after he landed on earth.

He didn't fight any herald levelers besides Sentry. Who basically got bitched out. Zom was winning, easily. Until Strange pulled the plug.

you mean when his healing factor was nerfed twice and in one of those instances his neck snapped after his head got turned 175 degrees?

also he was shot with adamantium (aka hulktinite) bullets, phased into concrete, withstood a blast that took a chunk of the moon the size of rhode island clean off, etc in relative succession

yeah zeus is a sky-father, but it just seems like hulk getting his healing factor taken to 7% of his normal level on "his terms" seems odd

Zeus almost killed him easily. Gimmie a break.

Zeus didn't almost kill him easily. Where did you get that from?

The fight?

Zeus beat the Hulk to the brink of death (Actually, he would have probably died if the Warbound hadn't attended to him) without breaking a sweat. Knowing the bastard, he was probably just having fun.

zeus is a weakbytch, check it:

hulk climbs up into his house n shit, and beats up zeus' kids, then slaps sues in the mouth in front of his wife while he was talking (hulk didn't even let him finish). hera has to encourage zeus to get his ass up and fight. he throws the bolt and hulk doesn't even flinch like a G, then hulk talks shit in front of his wife and zues has no choice but to suckerpunch him or he'll have to sleep on the couch. zeus slips on his magical brassnucks and after beating up hulk he chains him so he doesn't pull a ryu on his ass.

hulk had fun

Originally posted by psycho gundam
zom strange beat on the hulk and punched a hole right through that same stomach and the hole healed before hulk erased half of strange's medical education, all that happened after his campaign of whooping much ass after he landed on earth.

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