Darkseid/Orion/Wonder Woman vs Zeus/Hulk fist fight

Started by Philosophía10 pages

This double-standard is hilarious, since Surfer fans insist that Surfer isn't less powerful once he shrinks to microscopic size, and his attacks are just as efficient against Superman.

But go on.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't remember how they showed Libra coming to Earth. Are you sure it wasn't with a Boom Tube?

I'm fairly certain Morrison stated in an interview that Libra was made a New God after Darkseid and the Gods of Apokolips rescued him from his ascension.

He came to earth through a Boom tube but he went to Apokalips without a boom tube.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He came to earth through a Boom tube but he went to Apokalips without a boom tube.

Right, but he was reconstituted by Desaad on Darkseid's orders. Grant Morrison said something to the effect that Darkseid had him reconstituted as a New God.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He came to earth through a Boom tube but he went to Apokalips without a boom tube.
You do realize you're just shooting yourself in the foot by using that instance, right?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Right, but he was reconstituted by Desaad on Darkseid's orders. Grant Morrison said something to the effect that Darkseid had him reconstituted as a New God.
I don't remember him being reconsistuted by desaad.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You do realize you're just shooting yourself in the foot by using that instance, right?
Explain.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Explain.
He didn't reach that realm by physically walking to it, he became discorporal - essentially merged with the very essence of the universe - "I see sights that would tear human mind asunder - I hear sounds that would make the greatest music a crashing din. [...]Thoughts flood my mind -- images -- concepts - ideas I could have never dreamed existed!".

He essentially had a taste of how the New Gods feel - what they represent, and thus able to reach their world.

Thus why Glorious Godfrey pointed out that they've been following him for years, knowing that his experiments might finally bridge a barrier between the New Gods realm and Earth without the use of a boomtube.

The fact that Libra only reached the New Gods world without the boomtube by becoming discorporal (after absorbing half a galaxy's worth of energy), and then getting more powerful/being flooded with the concepts/ideeas that are unfathomable to the human mind, certainly doesn't exactly lend credence to what you're trying to say.

Originally posted by Philosophía
He didn't reach that realm by physically walking to it, he became discorporal - essentially merged with the very essence of the universe - "I see sights that would tear human mind asunder - I hear sounds that would make the greatest music a crashing din. [...]Thoughts flood my mind -- images -- concepts - ideas I could have never dreamed existed!".

He essentially had a taste of how the New Gods feel - what they represent, and thus able to reach their world.

Thus why Glorious Godfrey pointed out that they've been following him for years, knowing that his experiments might finally bridge a barrier between the New Gods realm and Earth without the use of a boomtube.

The fact that Libra only reached the New Gods world without the boomtube by becoming discorporal (after absorbing half a galaxy's worth of energy), and then getting more powerful/being flooded with the concepts/ideeas that are unfathomable to the human mind, certainly doesn't exactly lend credence to what you're trying to say.

Hmmmm...didn't look at it like that before.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I don't remember him being reconsistuted by desaad. Explain.
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Originally posted by Badabing
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Originally posted by Black bolt z
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Originally posted by Badabing
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Originally posted by Badabing
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Originally posted by Allankles
It's not overhyping the feat, since we know it has a greater mass and surface area to Earth. We also don't assume that the NGs scale with their planets proportionally to Humans with Earth. We know generally that even in our own solar system other planets exceed Earth for size and mass.

So even considering scale it could feel like having two Earthlike Jupiter sized planets smashing into him, or it could be more or possibly less.

One thing we do know is that their mass is far greater than Earth's, meaning that even if we take scale into consideration, magnitude alone makes its more impressive.

I assume it's around Earth level in comparison based on what I've seen. But if you have any specific references to it's size in comparison, I'd concede.

Possibly but that's beside the point. My argument is that scale doesn't matter because using boom tubes, it becomes all relative. Just assume in the example I used, the planets that struck Captain Marvel where in proportion to the ones that struck Superman. Just edit the example.

What?

Man I wish DC artists would draw DS like this:
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/026/e/9/darkseid_5_minute_sketch_1_by_papabear7-d383jlv.jpg

Instead of some square block.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I assume it's around Earth level in comparison based on what I've seen. But if you have any specific references to it's size in comparison, I'd concede.

Possibly but that's beside the point. My argument is that scale doesn't matter because using boom tubes, it becomes all relative. Just assume in the example I used, the planets that struck Captain Marvel where in proportion to the ones that struck Superman. Just edit the example.

What?

See the scan I posted and the ones Philo posted.

Omega: Morrison said DS turned Libra into a new god? Well, can't go against him. thumbsupdur

The issue that Philo is showing scans from is FC: Secret Origins I believe. Which also retcons DOTNG.

What relevancy do they have to my argument?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Man I wish DC artists would draw DS like this:
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/026/e/9/darkseid_5_minute_sketch_1_by_papabear7-d383jlv.jpg

Instead of some square block.

amazo with darkseid's face?

pass

this is the best darkseid

http://geekdraw.com/dc-comics/darkseid/7745945

Originally posted by psycho gundam
amazo with darkseid's face?

pass

this is the best darkseid

http://geekdraw.com/dc-comics/darkseid/7745945


Pretty nice.

thanos and darkseid seem to be getting taller all of a sudden

They learned that from Galactus. The bigger you are, the less likely Thing will grab you and start throwing you into rollercoasters, and the more invincible the fans will think you.

http://www.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/24/darkseid-is-smaller.jpg

I always liked this costume of DS.
http://www.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/24/darkseid-is-smaller.jpg