Thor takes on X-men Team

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus6 pages
Originally posted by kakuzu
1.Your talking about when he had it filled with the heat of 1,000,000 suns? That might have been the only time. I think he literally held it a second later lol

Thor generated extreme heat against Surtur on two different occasions. In the first instance, Mjolnir burned with the power and energy of a 1000 Suns:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSurtur2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSurtur3.jpg

He was unharmed.

Later on, he was hurt to a minor degree by holding on to it:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsSurtur15.jpg

I'm assuming it was noticeably hotter in the second instance.

Originally posted by kakuzu
2.Tarene is alot weaker than Thor, she got killed by one hit from Surtur, thors been fighting surtur with and mostly with out the odin force for several decades. Surtur is a being whos fire keeps getting hotter and he gets hurt by Thors fists.

I wouldn't say that. Before she lost the Designate power completely, I'd argue she was almost on Thor's level. She was working Gladiator before the cold breath instance. When was she killed by Surtur?

Originally posted by kakuzu
He wouldn't be burned in the least bit by gladiators beams, nor Supermans beams. Stunned probably not he's taken hits from celestials before and blast from durok and amped up surfer. It can however knock him back but those just aren't enough to truly hurt him. Immune though I think your right but I don't see very many beings with the heat of millions suns though lol. That Thor vs sups wasn't a good comic, Supes able to knock Thor out, Thor killing Doomsday with one hit, Superman able to wield Thors hammer? Whole comic had many flaws. They should remake it like they are most other stuff now a days

I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself. Thor isn't always on that level. I agree that Thor wouldn't be burnt by Gladiator's heat vision, but I can see him being momentarily stunned by it. Similar to Thor Girl but to a lesser extent. I don't think a writer would have Thor no sell it. It certainly can be argued but I don't see it happening on average.

You can't prove Thor killed Doomsday, but he did seem to have him on the ropes. Meh, I don't like Clark beating Thor, but it was a decent fight. Clark was so spent, a repulsor blast from Iron Man noticeably hurt him. Clark even admitted that he barely beat Thor. Not a bad showing for Thor. Especially since it was Busiek who generally writers a more lower end Thor.

Wolverine solos.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor generated extreme heat against Surtur on two different occasions. In the first instance, Mjolnir burned with the power and energy of a 1000 Suns:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSurtur2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSurtur3.jpg

He was unharmed.

Later on, he was hurt to a minor degree by holding on to it:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsSurtur15.jpg

I'm assuming it was noticeably hotter in the second instance.

I wouldn't say that. Before she lost the Designate power completely, I'd argue she was almost on Thor's level. She was working Gladiator before the cold breath instance. When was she killed by Surtur?

I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself. Thor isn't always on that level. I agree that Thor wouldn't be burnt by Gladiator's heat vision, but I can see him being momentarily stunned by it. Similar to Thor Girl but to a lesser extent. I don't think a writer would have Thor no sell it. It certainly can be argued but I don't see it happening on average.

You can't prove Thor killed Doomsday, but he did seem to have him on the ropes. Meh, I don't like Clark beating Thor, but it was a decent fight. Clark was so spent, a repulsor blast from Iron Man noticeably hurt him. Clark even admitted that he barely beat Thor. Not a bad showing for Thor. Especially since it was Busiek who generally writers a more lower end Thor.

That doesn't sound like it was burned, he's been throwing and whirling that hammer fast alot because surtur was near his eternal flame which made his power even greater than odin with the odin force and odin couldn't get to his full power as well. The instance I talk of was when he fought that one of the three omnipotent brothers. This doesn't look like a burn

2She was never almost on his level, Gladiator pwned her, he beat her with ice breathe lol. That same trick would never work on Thor. I think even in strength she was by far alot weaker. She even got killed by that gargoyle dude.

3.Where talking about classic Thor he literally stayed at the same level of durability pretty much. I haven't seen a time during his classic years where he had a problem with regular heats blast and suns ever. I'm pretty sure Gladiators heat blast wouldn't stun him. Its pretty much like Supergirl getting pwned by Doomsdays with ease but Superman putting up and actual fight.

4.When she was killed was during the same arc Surtur just came back alive in new york I think? Odin sacrificed himself to kill Surtur. It was basically the same time Surtur came back before ragnarok I think he killed her with and eye beam attack.

5.I can't prove it but Doomsdays was still beaten with like one hit and never seen again in that comic. If He wasn't dead he was beaten by a regular blow from Thor. If Thor was going to kill Doomsday it be the same blow he used on that pirate planet back in volume one against the 2,000ft celestial. As for Superman beating him so easily horrible showing. It may be because Thor was on a team why he lost but even so Superman could never truly knock him out with just one hit. Those guys are in the same league they would have to duke it out if anything.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine solos.

Is that code for running away?

Storm sucks on Thor's tongue while the rest watch, getting all hot and bothered.

Originally posted by zopzop
The sad thing is that's a pretty solid X-men line up and they still have no chance. Thor 10/10. Iceman isn't doing jack.

It's unfortunate, but very true.

I think it was an Iceman fan here who would argue that since Iceman has full control over the speed of atoms then he can just stop the movement of the atoms to kill any non abstract being.

Thor would mostly likely win here but it wouldn't be easy. Especially if he is distracted and gets clawed good by Wolverine.

Imo, Iceman can definitely slow him done a minut bit in order for Wolverine to land some good strikes.

Assuming Thor doesn't do what he did to the Winter Guard during the Kang arc a few years back, IE calling down multiple lighting bolts to take the entire team down at the same time.

Or what he did to that group of aliens during the Maximum Security arc, IE calling up a tornado to BFR them.

What is the level of Thor Durability and Regen Healing?

If Wolverine cut Thor's head off would it grow back?
If Iceman freezes Thor and the Colossus punches him to shatter would he just heal like T1000?

Wolverine doesn't have the strength factor to cleanly cut off Thor's head with a single swipe and it's unlikely he'll get close enough to work at it before Thor dismisses him and most of the team.

It's unlikely Iceman would freeze Thor before he's BFRed or otherwise incapacitated. Same goes with Colossus punching him to shatter.

In a forum fight, everyone in character and not mindlessly trying to murder the others, Thor uses enough power to dispatch the mutants short of killing or causing permenant damage. Iceman's really their only chance.

In a comic book fight, X-Men would probably do a lot better, especially in an X-Title. Depending on how much plot device and PIS was involved, Thor would either stalemate the team or beat them with sufficient difficulty. The team could also possibly beat him depending on a variety of factors. Still, Thor has the feats in comics to warrant him cleanly beating this team of mutants.

team

Wolverine isn't cutting his head off and IIRC Thor has withstood cold from the casket of ancient winters

Originally posted by Starscream M
team

In a forum fight and a comic book one?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine isn't cutting his head off and IIRC Thor has withstood cold from the [b]casket of ancient winters [/B]

He's also endured having his molecules frozen in place and his godhood/divinity prevented it from occuring.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In a forum fight and a comic book one?
in character, I think the team wins. not sure about a fight in which everyone is bloodlusted though.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wolverine doesn't have the strength factor to cleanly cut off Thor's head with a single swipe and it's unlikely he'll get close enough to work at it before Thor dismisses him and most of the team.

logan doesn't have to decapitate thor

he could

1) stick one claw through the heart

2) cut his throat (airpipe)

3) stick a claw through his temple

4) slash his eyes

In character, one of them(probably Wolverine) is going to piss Thor off, at which point he likely uses one of the above making tactics.

Originally posted by Starscream M
in character, I think the team wins. not sure about a fight in which everyone is bloodlusted though.

I don't think you know what in-character means.

Originally posted by Starscream M
logan doesn't have to decapitate thor

he could

1) stick one claw through the heart

2) cut his throat (airpipe)

3) stick a claw through his temple

4) slash his eyes

Originally posted by Starscream M
in character, I think the team wins. not sure about a fight in which everyone is bloodlusted though.

I think in character, Thor would win both, but the comic book fight would obviously be portrayed way more even than it should be, especially in an X-Men title. Thor would definitely job some to the team under normal circumstances if we look at Marvel's history of doing similar things. Of course, a writer could portray Thor as just being unstoppable as compared to the X-Men roster, too.

Originally posted by Starscream M
logan doesn't have to decapitate thor

he could

1) stick one claw through the heart

2) cut his throat (airpipe)

3) stick a claw through his temple

4) slash his eyes

I'm not sure how to handle this.

You're not suggesting that if the team wins, it will be mainly because of Wolverine, are you?

You're also underestimating Thor's power output if you think that under normal/typical circumstances Thor is going to let Wolverine get that close to do that. He sure as hell wouldn't in a comic book. And based on feats as a whole, Wolverine is a non-factor to Thor in a forum setting.