Bart Allen Vs Nova

Originally posted by Galan007
Bart wins.

Also, lol @ Bart not having a big speed advantage. Nova might be able to fly pretty fast in a straight line through the vacuum of space, but battle speed in an arena type of setting (what will be needed here) is a completely different animal -- and Nova isn't touching Bart in that regard.

Also, if he can't hurt Nova and Nova can't touch him, what's the point exactly? What is this, a race?

Originally posted by dmills
The only part of your post I object to is the straight line in space speed comment. That is factually incorrect. Nova is fast by ANY measure. Straight line, combat, reflexive or otherwise.

Also, if he can't hurt Nova and Nova can't touch him, what's the point exactly? What is this, a race?

Why exactly would Bart be incapable of hurting Nova? That'd be like saying Barry or Wally couldn't hurt him...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Decent. But Flash is far faster.

Celey reads DC so he'd know better then I would how fast Bart is in relation to Nova or the WM.

Originally posted by Galan007
Bart wins.

Also, lol @ Bart not having a big speed advantage. Nova might be able to fly pretty fast in a straight line through the vacuum of space, but battle speed in an arena type of setting (what will be needed here) is a completely different animal -- and Nova isn't touching Bart in that regard.

I know you don't think he goes fast only in a straight line and battles only in a straight line.

See my post above. I clarified.

Nova's travel speed is what he's mainly known for. Not saying his battle speed isn't decent, but Flash-level it is not.

Originally posted by dmills
Hey man, no argument there. At least not from me. I'm just going by Flashs' rep. Speed is his shtick so I'd assume he's a helluva lot faster then Nova.

Celey reads DC so he'd know better then I would how fast Bart is in relation to Nova or the WM.

haven't really followed Flash consistently in a long while.
If anything, I follow Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps in recent times.

Originally posted by Galan007
See my post above. I clarified.

Nova's travel speed is what he's mainly known for. Not saying his battle speed isn't decent, but Flash-level it is not.

when he wants to, he can get ridiculously fast. if he knows he's going up against a speedster, I see him turning up the jets. he was moving at super luminal speeds while busting up Kree Sentries during Annihilation Conquest. he was going so fast they had to use teleport calculations with "rapid reaction positioning" just so they can catch up to him.

I think Bart still reacts faster. Didn't he evade Zoom?

Bart bitched Zoom. He was FASTER. shock And Flash (any) has the ability to perceive things to the attosecond.

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
when he wants to, he can get ridiculously fast. if he knows he's going up against a speedster, I see him turning up the jets. he was moving at super luminal speeds while busting up Kree Sentries during Annihilation Conquest. he was going so fast they had to use teleport calculations with "rapid reaction positioning" just so they can catch up to him.

Are there any instances where Nova has actually maintained a battle at super speeds... While not in space?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Didn't he evade Zoom?

Didn't help that Zoom fought like a complete idiot, though. At any rate, Zoom, on average, is still FAR faster -- a single moment of PIS/CIS isn't enough to say otherwise.

this version of Bart/Flash has the entire speed force absorbed into himself

he wasnt destroying them in a straight line. the fact that they had to use some crazy teleport calcs and sent out 100 sentries instead of groups of 8 shows he never really slowed down. He was 8 A.U. away then he was basically on top of the planet while destroying another small group a few panels later means he was going at them fast and hard.

^ For the most part he was traveling in a straight line. He bobbed and weaved a little when he blasted through the group of Sentries, but that's about all. It certainly wasn't battle speed in the sense I keep reiterating.

...And I noticed that you opted not to answer whether or not Nova has actually maintained a battle at super-speeds, while not in space 😉 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
I know the scene... Nova was still flying through space, mainly in a straight line (he was definitely flying in a straight line when the superluminal comment was made.)

Are there any instances where Nova has actually maintained a battle at super speeds... While not in space?

He did.

Didn't help that Zoom fought like a complete idiot, though. At any rate, Zoom, on average, is still FAR faster -- a single moment of PIS/CIS isn't enough to say otherwise.

Very true. 👆

I forgot Bart had absorbed the SF prior to fighting Zoom.

Originally posted by Mindset
Bart had absorbed the entire speed force, his speed should be pretty limitless, like Zoom's.

my point exactly

Originally posted by Galan007
^ For the most part he was traveling in a straight line. He bobbed and weaved a little when he blasted through the group of Sentries, but that's about all. It certainly wasn't battle speed in the sense I keep reiterating.

...And I noticed that you opted not to answer whether or not Nova has actually maintained a battle at super-speeds, while not in space 😉 😛

how is that not fast?? Phalanx had to use some crazy computations to kinda predict where he might be just to be able to tag him. Him using speed in space doesnt mean he cant go fast planet side..

You have to consider that Bart IS the speed force. There is nothing you can post that will put Rich over any Flash in speed, let alone Bart.

If that's the case, we're lookin at a stalemate..

No stalemate, Bart wins.