Originally posted by Mindsetexplain how you would beat someone you can't catch. ever.... and who can literally slow you down to the point that you cease to perceive the universe because whatever process that makes up your consciousness has just stopped.
I didn't even read past the part where you said only an Elder God or above could beat him.There's really no point to.
Bart has too many options. Speed steal, sf dump, rapid punch barrage, imp, etc...
It has been stated in Bart's run as Flash at least once or twice that he is faster than all of his predecessors put together. Even before he absorbed the speedforce he was leaving Wally's accomplishments at that age in the dust.
Rich isn't going to stop Bart with garv manip or anything like that. In fact, Rich will basically be a statue. In this form, Bart is the speedforce. As ridiculous as Wally has been throughout his entire career, he has never absorbed the entire speedforce. Not when he outran intergalactic teleportation, not when he speed stole an entire planet, not even when he fought zoom iirc... Bart was heads above all of them, and I find it funny that he's still underestimated. Bart wins this. Like I said before.
he does. Flash/Parallax breaks the construct. They both start plummeting down with Flash on top, Hal makes another construct and tags him while both were in mid air, then Flash/Parallax runs on the shattered pieces of the construct, gets on top of GL again, they plummet again while encased in a missile shaped construct, then they hit ground level. Krona interrupts the fight after.
Out of curiosity who has Bart actually ko'ed? I doubt Rich goes down to a rapid punch barrage, who has Bart affected in such a way that it'll KO someone with Richs' durability? Nova is basically a living conduit for the nova force and will constantly have his energy replenished, so I'm gonna doubt a speed steal will be that easy.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17You misunderstand. I never said Nova isn't fast.
how is that not fast?? Phalanx had to use some crazy computations to kinda predict where he might be just to be able to tag him. Him using speed in space doesnt mean he cant go fast planet side..
However, you seem to be confused about the VAST difference between flying in a straight line through the vacuum of space (which Nova is good at), and the FTL zig-zag type of battle speed -on a planet- that Flash excels at.
They are two completely different types of speed.
Originally posted by dmillsAssuming Flash just stands there and allows the gravity blast to hit him..? Come on.
Nova can steal mess with gravity.
Flash can perceive and react by the attosecond (one quintillionth of a second; one thousandth of a femtosecond.) He isn't getting touched if he doesn't want to.
Did the op clarify if this was in fact the incarnate speed force guy, or are you all assuming it is?
Originally posted by Galan007
You misunderstand. I never said Nova isn't fast.However, you seem to be confused about the VAST difference between flying in a straight line through the vacuum of space (which Nova is good at), and the FTL zig-zag type of battle speed -on a planet- that Flash excels at.
They are two completely different types of speed.
Assuming Flash just stands there and allows the gravity blast to hit him..? Come on.Flash can perceive and react by the attosecond (one quintillionth of a second; one thousandth of a femtosecond.) He isn't getting touched if he doesn't want to.
I have scans of him fighting at super speed on a planet or in an enclosed space, but not ftl. He only does that in space -for obvious reasons-.
Now I assume that you're only asking *if* he can do it. Your not going to pull the ol' kmc bait and switch if I post the scans are you? If so I won't waste my time.
Originally posted by dmillsMy only question is IF Nova can maintain a battle -on a planet- at speeds around, or greater than, light speed.
I have scans of him fighting at super speed on a planet or in an enclosed space, but not ftl. He only does that in space -for obvious reasons-. I assume that you're only asking *if* he can do it. Your not going to pull the ol' kmc bait and switch right?
Flying really fast in a straight line through space just doesn't cut it.