Rugal Bernstein VS Akuma
Time for another round of SNK Boss Syndrome!
KoF '94 Rugal Bernstein
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Skip to 7:18 to witness the classic SNK Boss Syndrome unfold before your very eyes.
Genocide Cutter FTW.
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SF2 S. Akuma
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Most broken version of Akuma evar.
The A.I. was insane on this game, especially in hardest difficulty.
Orochi-powered big bad VS the Demon, who will win?
94 Rugal was much cheaper, imo.
Capcom bosses are usually never as hard as SNK bosses. SNK bosses are so hard that it is obviously game breaking. Capcom bosses just get the bossly basics and are played by competent AI. ST Akuma was phucked up, tho. He was game breaking. 02' (original, not UM) Boss Rugal has to be in the pantheon of Godly hard bosses (unless you use Athena). Takes me almost an hour to beat'im every time I play.
Still, I gotta say the hardest boss I've ever fought was Shin Ultimate Bison II from EX2+. There is only one documented case of him being beaten by anyone.
Well yea. They might give the Capcom bosses the AI and not so much the stats. The SNK bosses get cheesy AI and instant death moves.
That Akuma was sick though, 1 or 2 move wins, better moves in every way.
But the big offenders are Gill, and the Bison from EX3 was probably worse IMO. God Rugal and Shin (God) Akuma could be bad too for some.
There are other games that have cheesy bosses it shows a lack of effort sometimes.
Another thing is SNK bosses tend to have exploits because of their AI patterns. Capcom ones aren't as bad with that.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well yea. They might give the Capcom bosses the AI and not so much the stats. The SNK bosses get cheesy AI and instant death moves.That Akuma was sick though, 1 or 2 move wins, better moves in every way.
But the big offenders are Gill, and the Bison from EX3 was probably worse IMO. God Rugal and Shin (God) Akuma could be bad too for some.
There are other games that have cheesy bosses it shows a lack of effort sometimes.
Another thing is SNK bosses tend to have exploits because of their AI patterns. Capcom ones aren't as bad with that.
I think so, too. The Cap bosses get the powers you expect, but pretty decent AI.
Ya'know, I think SFI Sagat has to be the most OP of the SF bosses.
I really don't have a problem with the CVS bosses on the hardest difficulty. I can beat'em handily with characters I'm good with. I just turtle the shit outta them. My all time fav boss, gameplay wise, 'is' Gill. He isn't so much cheap as he is just OP and 'very good'. One of the few FG bosses that will make you better at the game cuz it simply boils down to out playin a rather decent AI. He has alotta flaws to tone him down.
And you hit the nail on the head with pointing out that KOF bosses tend to have very bad AI patterns which takes away alotta respect. If you look back, I said, 02 Rugal was one of the hardest KOF bosses ever* (unless you had Athena) take a look...
Bad AI exploited.
Here is a vid of the the bosses of 94-96 getting their AI raped by simple tactics.
Pretty much.
Games were so broken back then.
They don't bother me either. Gill is simply better than every character in every way. Although Capcom vs SNK 2 bosses can be more of a pain on K grove than A grove. Especially when they kill you in 2 hits.
Exactly. That's how many "fake difficulty" cheesy characters are. Hence why I prefer "tactical AI", it might border on cheesy sometimes, but it is more entertaining and less insulting.
There's an AI exploit for Kriz, too. There's and exploit for 'every' KOF boss. And they are 'all' easy to take advantage of win. Many I didn't know til after I played the games.
B-bye Krizzy. Lulz
Originally posted by No End N Site
There's and exploit for 'every' KOF boss. And they are 'all' easy to take advantage of win.
I disagree though that they are 'all' easy.
Krizalid's was perhaps the easiest.
Take for example, Magaki.
Even with the barrel-roll exploit, it's almost impossible to pull when fighting him in max difficulty.
The AI can auto-counter everything you dish out. You need skill and speed to win the battle, no amount of luck will save you.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Too true, man. I'm lookin for SF boss exploits and can't find any.
SFA3 S. Bison was incredibly flawed.
I used a different tactic however.
I time a flying kick when he ducks and throws a projectile, then use the Shoryuken exploit.
Shoryuken or block when he backs off (when Bison is about use his Super)
Notice how S. Bison keeps repeating the same moves over and over again.
When he ducks, you just know he's about to throw a projectile.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He has certain patterns as do all bosses in some ways, but you aren't exploiting the same thing over and over, like the fireball reflect counter.
Yup, S.Vega is EZ 2 read. His AI is weak, but not brain dead. The 02 Rugal and Kriz R just ridiculous. I didn't even no about that.
Originally posted by No End N SiteGill N 2I had one. Altho, it only worked on mid difficulty, U had 2 score a knock down N the corner, U had 2 have S.Gouki. U have 2 stand over him and throw Zankus right B4 he got up without moving an inch. He would never block them.
Too true, man. I'm lookin for SF boss exploits and can't find any.
Make what U want out of that.