Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Honestly, none of the things she actually did in those scenes would have really done much, as far as ending the fight.
Fully charged Ice Beam would freeze him instantly given his lack of ice resistence. In fact, his use of cryogenic pods indicates a vulnerability. Missile would have shattered him.
The Speed Booster would splatter Master Chief all over the place, as Samus slamming into him faster than the speed of sound is above anything he's ever tanked, and the Speed Booster smashes through starship hulls.
The Morph Ball Bombs are iffy, and I'm not actually sure whether or not they'd kill him. Still, MC has trouble with grenades, so I'm thinking yes.
The building slam is not something I think Samus can actually do reliably. If she could, though, MC's durability isn't that high.
Originally posted by The Scenario
[B]Fully charged Ice Beam would freeze him instantly given his lack of ice resistence. In fact, his use of cryogenic pods indicates a vulnerability. Missile would have shattered him.
Then again... Chief isn't as strong as he used to be. He got a nerf in the recent guide book.
The Speed Booster would splatter Master Chief all over the place, as Samus slamming into him faster than the speed of sound is above anything he's ever tanked, and the Speed Booster smashes through starship hulls.
Uh. You're saying he's never been hit by objects moving at the speed of sound?
The Morph Ball Bombs are iffy, and I'm not actually sure whether or not they'd kill him. Still, MC has trouble with grenades, so I'm thinking yes.His armor is impervious to all human weapons and explosives in the Halo universe. A missile fired from a jet fighter sprained his ankle, but failed to even dent his armor.
The building slam is not something I think Samus can actually do reliably. If she could, though, MC's durability isn't that high.
Surviving falling through the atmosphere and hitting the ground without a scratch > going through buildings.
That aside, don't misunderstand me here; anyone with a brain knows that Samus with the weapons available to her would wipe the floor with any Spartan.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Uh. You're saying he's never been hit by objects moving at the speed of sound?
As far as I know, he has not tanked a 6ft, 200+ lb object at mach 1.2 or above.
His armor is impervious to all human weapons and explosives in the Halo universe. A missile fired from a jet fighter sprained his ankle, but failed to even dent his armor.
Is The Fall of Reach even canon anymore what with the game? In any case, he needed Cortana's help for the missile and would have died without her. Doesn't sound like it bodes well for him.
Surviving falling through the atmosphere and hitting the ground without a scratch > going through buildings.
I wouldn't know. His suit locked up to soften the blow, at least to my understanding.
Originally posted by The Scenario
[B]As far as I know, he has not tanked a 6ft, 200+ lb object at mach 1.2 or above.
He's tanked missiles, rockets, and 50. caliber bullets, and a fall from the atmosphere. I don't see any reason why
Is The Fall of Reach even canon anymore what with the game? In any case, he needed Cortana's help for the missile and would have died without her. Doesn't sound like it bodes well for him.
Cortana is a computer program. 😐 She helped him time his punch for when he punched the missile away, and it detonated a few feet away. She had no bearing on his durability, which is what I was addressing.
I don't know if FoR is canon anymore either. Bungie's whole canon policy confuses me these days.
I wouldn't know. His suit locked up to soften the blow, at least to my understanding.
It did. However, 1. Locking the suit is instantaneous, and 2. the force generated from going through a building is no where near the force generated from a 1000 pound object burning through atmosphere then hitting the ground at terminal velocity.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
[B]He's tanked missiles, rockets, and 50. caliber bullets, and a fall from the atmosphere. I don't see any reason why
None of which are really comparable with Samus hitting him at mach 1.2 or faster. Same ability breaks through starship armor, or did I already say that?
Cortana is a computer program. 😐 She helped him time his punch for when he punched the missile away, and it detonated a few feet away. She had no bearing on his durability, which is what I was addressing.I don't know if FoR is canon anymore either. Bungie's whole canon policy confuses me these days.
Not really a direct hit, was the point I was making. Don't know quite how far away it was, and it was still stated he'd have died without Cortana deflecting it.
Out of suit feats for Samus:
http://metroid-database.com/manga/official_vol_1_en/ch_0007/scaled/sc_metroid_v01_ch07_172.png
Jumping off a cliff, breaking the ground when she lands, unharmed. At age five.
http://metroid-database.com/manga/official_vol_1_en/ch_0002/scaled/sc_metroid_v01_ch002_046.png
Jumping 20+ feet in the air, bouncing off of robots.
http://metroid-database.com/manga/official_vol_2_en/ch_0013/scaled/sc_metroid_v02_ch0078.png
Defeating several armed/armored guards while surrounded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pQtbFidSf0
This is just Samus surviving on a planet with an atmosphere unfit for humans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er74li76zUY
General abilities. Note the wall jumps and ability to outright ignore long falls. Also some stealth. Space Pirates can one-shot each other, but not Samus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RlaZO6YHaQ#t=6m
More general abilities. She tanks an energy blast at 6:55, and again ignores falls.
That's...about it, really, as far as unsuited Samus goes.
