Final Destination Vol.1 Samus Aran X Master Chief

Originally posted by The Scenario
Out of suit feats for Samus:

http://metroid-database.com/manga/official_vol_1_en/ch_0007/scaled/sc_metroid_v01_ch07_172.png

Jumping off a cliff, breaking the ground when she lands, unharmed. At age five.

http://metroid-database.com/manga/official_vol_1_en/ch_0002/scaled/sc_metroid_v01_ch002_046.png

Jumping 20+ feet in the air, bouncing off of robots.

http://metroid-database.com/manga/official_vol_2_en/ch_0013/scaled/sc_metroid_v02_ch0078.png

Defeating several armed/armored guards while surrounded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pQtbFidSf0

This is just Samus surviving on a planet with an atmosphere unfit for humans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er74li76zUY

General abilities. Note the wall jumps and ability to outright ignore long falls. Also some stealth. Space Pirates can one-shot each other, but not Samus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RlaZO6YHaQ#t=6m
More general abilities. She tanks an energy blast at 6:55, and again ignores falls.

That's...about it, really, as far as unsuited Samus goes.

That's my bored take at least 😛

It other sources are canon they are generally accepted unless the OP says otherwise. And theres usually no reason to make a rule like that.

The way I interpreted the rule it's non-canon until stated otherwise. Not the other way around. If there's no reason for the rule we should make a motion to remove it. Because as it is right now, it stands 😛

This thread needs to GTFO.

Rules don't get changed even if they're useless or outdated. Canon to the series is the accepted rule as it takes away the wait and/or confusion if the OPer doesn't know of other media. Its easier this way and tends to work.

So we're promoting anarchy? What's ignoring a rule here and there 😛 It's not like they are written for a reason.

Yeah, and

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
This thread needs to GTFO.

Thats the spirit. ^^

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
[B]- The first three are irrelevant because the forum rules denounce them.

In which case the rules also denounce Master Chief's book feats, and those are all he has without the suit.

- The fourth is irrelevant because it doesn't give her any type of edge.

It establishes a superhuman quality that Master Chief doesn't match, and gives an edge in the rainforest, at least in survivability.

- The fifth unless I missed something does not give her much of an edge over Master Chief either. Aside from her acrobatic skills I can see him do those things over.

Since we appear to be going by games, Master Chief couldn't really do the kind of things Samus did there even with the suit. Game Master Chief is kind of a brick.

- The energy blast in the sixth seemed to only scraped her since it hit the ground behind her.

Still a hit, and a better out of suit showing than Master Chief currently has.

In the game MC isn't out of his suit, and said suit is meant to make him a tank gameplay wise. But how is jumping around supposed to suggest that she's stronger than MC?

Also things like speed are a wash,... if she's at least a bullet timer.

She most likely isn't a bullet timer out of the suit if she needs a special suit mode to reach Ma1.

Speed is close to equal. Chief was 3x faster then peak human with a torn ankle tendon. [With suit?]

How strong is MC?

Cap's a bullet timer and he can't reach Mach 1 on foot. Are you suggesting you need to be able to run that fast? 'cause that'd be dumb. 😐

I hear 2 tons on Chief's strength.

Why the hell is this still a discussion? Samus dominates.

Poor thinking on my behalf. Was too concerned with speed that I mixed bullet timing with bullet speed.

Calling a tie. Little speed and strength difference with the primary difference being Samus' agility and John's damage soak.

Then I should point out his best damage soaking feat caused his armor to lock up. And it's probably not good enough to take a shot from Samus anyway.

Either way, Samus has won.

Ran 500m and continued fighting with a torn achilles tendon where a normal person wouldn't be able to take a single step on it for months. With that stamina and resistance Samus will need more then a single shot or stab to put him down. And a longer time means more opportunity to get hits on her.

Not if his armor locks up, or he just can't move because his entire body has been frozen.

Oh yeah. This is the no armors thread.

Then Chief fails REALLY hardcore. Why the hell are you arguing this then? You argued for Sora against Link for Sora's speed. Yet here it's basically the same thing and you want to call a tie. >_>

...what armour?

Originally posted by The Scenario
In which case the rules also denounce Master Chief's book feats, and those are all he has without the suit.

It establishes a superhuman quality that Master Chief doesn't match, and gives an edge in the rainforest, at least in survivability.

Since we appear to be going by games, Master Chief couldn't really do the kind of things Samus did there even with the suit. Game Master Chief is kind of a brick.

Still a hit, and a better out of suit showing than Master Chief currently has.

- Which is a fault in the thread and not the rules 😛

- You're insinuating that it's harder to breathe in the rain forest than elsewhere? Or some other manner of impairing atmosphere.

- I did say bar acrobatics. I'd in confidence say though that he could do the same level over without much problem though 🙂

- He survived that high fall during the third game. That's durability if anything. At least comparable to being scraped by an energy shot ✅

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
- Which is a fault in the thread and not the rules 😛

True, but if Samus can't use manga feats, Master Chief can't use book feats.

- You're insinuating that it's harder to breathe in the rain forest than elsewhere? Or some other manner of impairing atmosphere.

No, just that Samus tolerate hostiles environments better.

- I did say bar acrobatics. I'd in confidence say though that he could do the same level over without much problem though 🙂

Perhaps, but the acrobatics are more-or-less required. It's meant to be a stealth section and both have experience there.

- He survived that high fall during the third game. That's durability if anything. At least comparable to being scraped by an energy shot ✅

But that was in his suit. And the suit locked up, causing the "gel layer" to absorb most of the force, and he was still out for at least half an hour. I also remember something about luck being involved.

Anyway, I can see Samus just leaping into the trees, where she'll have the best advantage. Assuming neither of them starts in sight of the other, Samus will most likely find and shoot Master Chief first.

Originally posted by The Scenario
True, but if Samus can't use manga feats, Master Chief can't use book feats.

No, just that Samus tolerate hostiles environments better.

Perhaps, but the acrobatics are more-or-less required. It's meant to be a stealth section and both have experience there.

But that was in his suit. And the suit locked up, causing the "gel layer" to absorb most of the force, and he was still out for at least half an hour. I also remember something about luck being involved.

Anyway, I can see Samus just leaping into the trees, where she'll have the best advantage. Assuming neither of them starts in sight of the other, Samus will most likely find and shoot Master Chief first.

- Uuuuh . . . Correct . . . ? 😑

- The rain forest has a hostile atmospheric environment?

- So we agree that both can complete the level. We also agree that she's more acrobatic. Why did you reply? 😄

- Luck was the reason Cortana selected him. It had nothing to do with him surviving the fall 😉 I can't seem to remember any mentioning of a gel layer but I'm not going to argue you on that. What I meant was that the force of impact would've crushed him even though the armor impacted without a dent. That if he had been a normal human in terms of durability 🙂