Cross-Genre Match: .............

Started by Dum Dum Dugan22 pages

This video cracks me up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChmLbsSGfbo&feature=related

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
that fair enough.

But masterbruce trying to pretend golaith is class 15 is absurd.

Macbeth has match golaith in fights and he is quite human physically.

It's possible the Gargoyles even in the episodes I just watched were doing insane things. I'm sure somewhere along the show they probably do even more stuff.

Plus Macbeth and most humans tend to rely on technology, surprise and deceit to take advantage of Goliath in melee. That I do remember.

Originally posted by Starscream M
macbeth used weapons, he did match goliath in a grapple, you clown!

yes and? he still match golaith. If he was 15 tonner like your suggesting he toss him with utter ease.

Calling me a clown when you fail over and over amuses me.

Originally posted by Newjak
It's possible the Gargoyles even in the episodes I just watched were doing insane things. I'm sure somewhere along the show they probably do even more stuff.

Plus Macbeth and most humans tend to rely on technology, surprise and deceit to take advantage of Goliath in melee. That I do remember.


They dont though, nothing even close to 15 tons. There best feats for golaith are in volume 3 which is not even cannon.

I talk matching him and melee combat. Not techology, just striaight up.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ripping through concrete takes CL15 strength

No it doesent.

Street leveler bash right through the stuff.

many the epic fails you repeatedly bring forth is astounding.

I'd say easily breaking Concrete is at best a Class 5 feat.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
They dont though, nothing even close to 15 tons. There best feats for golaith are in volume 3 which is not even cannon.

I talk matching him and melee combat. Not techology, just striaight up.

Like I said I'm not sure.

And it's only not cannon based upon the original guy of the show saying so. So I'm not too sure I would say its non-cannon. I mean if Stan Lee did a TV about Spiderman and based it on just after he finished writing Spidey's comic and said everything after that in the comic version of Spidey is non-cannon.

Well I think we would all be a little hesitant to agree with him.

But like I said I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but am saying Goliath is an animal/beast and from the very limited amount I saw could prove to be a test for either of the two.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'd say easily breaking Concrete is at best a Class 5 feat.

even then it a stretch, when you got DD, capt ect doing it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'd say easily breaking Concrete is at best a Class 5 feat.
this isn't breaking as in taking a piece of concrete and smashing it

I mean, how strong it takes to simply take your hand and rip through concrete..that's more like Class 15 imo

Originally posted by Newjak
Like I said I'm not sure.

And it's only not cannon based upon the original guy of the show saying so. So I'm not too sure I would say its non-cannon. I mean if Stan Lee did a TV about Spiderman and based it on just after he finished writing Spidey's comic and said everything after that in the comic version of Spidey is non-cannon.

Well I think we would all be a little hesitant to agree with him.

But like I said I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but am saying Goliath is an animal/beast and from the very limited amount I saw could prove to be a test for either of the two.

Dude the creator said it not cannon. It not cannon. I dont even know how you coudl argue it cannon. He has zero imput after the first episode and even stated it not cannon to the rest of his work. However the comic is cannon. Also your example is not even remotely similar to what happen.

I not, ninja turtles volume 3 is not consider cannon with the rest and one of the creators was on board with it.

I doubt it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
this isn't breaking as in taking a piece of concrete and smashing it

I mean, how strong it takes to simply take your hand and rip through concrete..that's more like Class 15 imo


Goliath has claws...

...just saying.

Sure a lot of it has to be strength...but he has really sharp, strong claws too. That's got to help. It's not like we're talking about someone pushing blunt fingertips through titanium with uber strength, we're talking about something clawing through concrete.

Originally posted by Starscream M
this isn't breaking as in taking a piece of concrete and smashing it

I mean, how strong it takes to simply take your hand and rip through concrete..that's more like Class 15 imo

No it not. And it not jsut his fingures. he has claws.

so pathetic.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Dude the creator said it not cannon. It not cannon. I dont even know how you coudl argue it cannon. He has zero imput after the first episode and even stated it not cannon to the rest of his work. However the comic is cannon

I not, ninja turtles volume 3 is not consider cannon with the rest and one of the creators was on board with it.

I doubt it.

I thought my Stan Lee analogy said why pretty well. He created Spider-Man but if he did what the original creator for Gargoyles did we wouldn't agree.

And of course I'm not really sayings its canon just saying why it could be canon or why the point you made isn't the best way to prove it imo. I don't really know if its canon or not.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Goliath has claws...

...just saying.

Sure a lot of it has to be strength...but he has really sharp, strong claws too. That's got to help. It's not like we're talking about someone pushing blunt fingertips through titanium with uber strength, we're talking about something clawing through concrete.


yea he vastly over playing it becuase he has nothing else. I just gunna save this entire nonsense he been spewing for a later date. Because it oh so fun to watch individual be hypocrites.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Goliath has claws...

...just saying.

Sure a lot of it has to be strength...but he has really sharp, strong claws too. That's got to help. It's not like we're talking about someone pushing blunt fingertips through titanium with uber strength, we're talking about something clawing through concrete.

no, I understand. claws def give him leverage, but the strength it takes to rend through concrete and steel walls like styrofoam indicates a high level of strength.

Originally posted by Newjak
I thought my Stan Lee analogy said why pretty well. He created Spider-Man but if he did what the original creator for Gargoyles did we wouldn't agree.

And of course I'm not really sayings its canon just saying why it could be canon or why the point you made isn't the best way to prove it imo. I don't really know if its canon or not.


It not the same thing at all. Stan lee had other writers doing individual story lines. The creator wrote most all of the reason for one and two and then him and the network had a disagreement. He left and then decided to go forth with the third season any ways. It not cannon at all.

It not cannon. creator said it not cannon. I note sure what else you could possibly want.

Originally posted by Starscream M
no, I understand. claws def give him leverage, but the strength it takes to rend through concrete and steel walls like styrofoam indicates a high level of strength.

really?

Interesting because by your logic wolverine a class 15.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
really?

Interesting because by your logic wolverine a class 15.

goliath claws are nowhere comparable to logan's claws

goliath claws are more similar to sabretooth...and yes, sabretooth is legit cl 15

Originally posted by Starscream M
no, I understand. claws def give him leverage, but the strength it takes to rend through concrete and steel walls like styrofoam indicates a high level of strength.

Eh.

Pretty sure I can bust through concrete if I have a good, sharp axe, and I'm a Class 0.05 😛

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Eh.

Pretty sure I can bust through concrete if I have a good, sharp axe, and I'm a Class 0.05 😛

thats another thing that battlehammer is ignorant about

goliath claws aren't claws in the typical sense, they're more extensions of his fingers

now, imagine how durable they have to be to penetrate steel and concrete...

also, I think you'd find chipping through concrete even with a sharp axe quite difficult....hence the need for powerful motorsupported jackhammers when they need to crack concrete