Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't want to be without her forever. Thanos never committed suicide even when he could die so once again I am right.Just saying Thanos' prep is about 50 levels up from Henshaw's. Thanos doesn't need to find a way he's the avatar of death he kills DD based off of his power to kill unkillables.
The point is still made though since DD hasn't taken on or beaten anyone near Thanos' level you have no proof he can do so. Thanos on the other hand can kill beings who are beyond death. Thanos wins, 10/10.
When has Henshaw ever committed suicide? In every instance in which he has been thankful for death "finally" coming to him, he has been in battle, and has been mistaken. Thanos wants to die as well. Henshaw wants to die on his own terms because he's kind of a control freak and wants to chose his own death. Thanos wants to die as a result of unrequited love. Either way you look at it, he wants to die. They both do. One is just a little less emo imo. Take that how you want, I just thought that your contradiction was odd.
If DD copies his powers, maybe DD kills him? He stopped henshaw's regen. Henshaw didn't even register to Nekron. He and Deadman (the new white lantern) are the only ones that has happened to. When you think of the beings that couldn't escape Nekron, then the fact that heshaw and deadman were invisible to DC's physical representation of Death/the void becomes an even larger feat in and of itself. Whatever it is that henshaw has become, it's thought to be and been shown to be unkillable. Whatever allows henshaw to pass through death like it's nothing, Doomsday adapted to it, copied it, improved it, and overcame it. If he can do all of that, then imo, yes he can copy thanos. I think it would be kind of odd if he couldn't tbh.
Originally posted by Sirius77Thanos is banned from the abstract of death herself. Henshaw was almost killed until he was brought back by the manhunters via sc war. Huge difference in difficulty of dying between the two.
When has Henshaw ever committed suicide? In every instance in which he has been thankful for death "finally" coming to him, he has been in battle, and has been mistaken. Thanos wants to die as well. Henshaw wants to die on his own terms because he's kind of a control freak and wants to chose his own death. Thanos wants to die as a result of unrequited love. Either way you look at it, he wants to die. They both do. One is just a little less emo imo. Take that how you want, I just thought that your contradiction was odd.If DD copies his powers, maybe DD kills him? He stopped henshaw's regen. Henshaw didn't even register to Nekron. He and Deadman (the new white lantern) are the only ones that has happened to. When you think of the beings that couldn't escape Nekron, then the fact that heshaw and deadman were invisible to DC's physical representation of Death/the void becomes an even larger feat in and of itself. Whatever it is that henshaw has become, it's thought to be and been shown to be unkillable. Whatever allows henshaw to pass through death like it's nothing, Doomsday adapted to it, copied it, improved it, and overcame it. If he can do all of that, then imo, yes he can copy thanos. I think it would be kind of odd if he couldn't tbh.
Dd copying henshaw's powers isn't the same thing as copying the avatar of death's powers especially considering he killed beings who couldn't die either while weakened in a universe where death ceased to exist.
Thanos kills him. DD also failed against Imperiex and prior to and hasn't adapted past these beings either. Adapting to a technopath isn't anywhere near as impressive as you are making it out to be and henshaw being an anomaly to nekron isn't the same as being formidable either.
Originally posted by Sirius77
When Death was riding on his shoulders in the cancerverse, yeah. After she left him, there's no way to tell.
Death riding on his shoulders? Where on earth did you get this idea? The Necropsy ritual is what brought death into the Cancerverse, Thanos didn't "piggy" back her in. 🤨
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've never heard that theory anywhere before until sirius thought it up.
It's a strange theory.
Thanos never piggy backed her into the Cancerverse. If it were that simple, him simply stepping into the Cancerverse would've of been sufficient enough to bring death to it. Of course that didn't happen. The Necropsy ritual, where an avatar of Death is sacrificed, is what brought the abstract Death into the Cancerverse.
It was even stated on panel by Thanos that the ritual is what, quote: "let her in" referring to "her" as Death. It reinforces that fact that the ritual is what "let" Death enter the Cancerverse and thus reintroducing the concept of death into a universe that had no concept of death.
Also I'm not sure where people get the idea that Thanos no longer the avatar of Death. The end made it clear when Death wouldn't take him back indicates he's still the avatar and thus still immortal and has his avatar of Death powers.
I agree, although one could claim that since thanos could deliver permanent death in the cancerverse, death was already stretching in, the first time she truly manifested in the cancerverse was during the necropsy and by slaying the avatar of life she gravely wounded the undying ones triggering an extermination wave that wiped out those tainted by them.
Originally posted by vince_sliceVince slice I welcome your arrival to the kmc boards and see you actually comprehend what you read. Stick around, friend of Thanos.
It's a strange theory.Thanos never piggy backed her into the Cancerverse. If it were that simple, him simply stepping into the Cancerverse would've of been sufficient enough to bring death to it. Of course that didn't happen. The Necropsy ritual, where an avatar of Death is sacrificed, is what brought the abstract Death into the Cancerverse.
It was even stated on panel by Thanos that the ritual is what, quote: "let her in" referring to "her" as Death. It reinforces that fact that the ritual is what "let" Death enter the Cancerverse and thus reintroducing the concept of death into a universe that had no concept of death.
Also I'm not sure where people get the idea that Thanos no longer the avatar of Death. The end made it clear when Death wouldn't take him back indicates he's still the avatar and thus still immortal and has his avatar of Death powers.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is banned from the abstract of death herself. Henshaw was almost killed until he was brought back by the manhunters via sc war. Huge difference in difficulty of dying between the two.Dd copying henshaw's powers isn't the same thing as copying the avatar of death's powers especially considering he killed beings who couldn't die either while weakened in a universe where death ceased to exist.
Thanos kills him. DD also failed against Imperiex and prior to and hasn't adapted past these beings either. Adapting to a technopath isn't anywhere near as impressive as you are making it out to be and henshaw being an anomaly to nekron isn't the same as being formidable either.
Hey Quan? Next time you say something, make sure you know what the **** you're talking about. Henshaw may have been KOed, but he wasn't dead. His body registering life-signs or not doesn't indicate a single thing, since he's an energy lifeform, aka a ghost.
If Nekron cannot see him, that's very very strange. It means he may be much harder to kill than we thought.
And yet.....DD stopped him cold. And by locking down his powers, and trapping him, DD was close to taking him out.
IMPERIEX? hysterical You're going to use him as a low showing? The guy who embodied the big bang and entropy? Who hollowed the universe multiple times? stfugtfu That's like me saying that Galactus beating Thanos into the ground is a low showing.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Waverider has mind powers? Cool.
Not a follower of his comic runs, so not sure if that was the only time he did that.
But when he try to go into Doomsday's mind, to see why he hated, and wanted to kill Superman so badly, he saw Doomsday's creator, and how he was born, and why he wanted Superman dead.
Originally posted by 753
she wasnt riding him though. it is the act of killing him that brings her over, I believe
I never thought of it that way, but this is how I interpreted it. The entire thing was somewhat vague in almost a "For Tomorrow" way imo.
The way I understood it was that thanos was brought back for the very reason of combating the overflowing cancerverse caused by the presence of the rift. That was literally his only purpose. It would make sense that Death would use him because he's the most successful and loyal avatar.
Death, being kind of mean, knew that she could manipulate him, and rode into the cancerverse with thanos as somewhat of her "trojan horse". When mar-vell thought he was only killing an avatar, Death jumped out and reversed it on him and used her power to send a shock wave throughout the undying. One of the things that struck me was that mar-vell, as the avatar of life, knew that Death was tethered to thanos. Death was just smarter than the undying and was knowledgeable enough to keep thanos alive. She then reversed the ritual by literally being right behind mar-vell.
Perhaps he may have been unkillable in the beginning, but if we are going by on panel hearsay, it was thanos that explicitly said that death left him and Death was shown explicitly leaving. Which is why I don't see why he would retain his powers as a death avatar if his power source has left him.
Originally posted by SquallXNot mind powers. Temporal vision. He saw Doomsday's timeline up to the present.
Not a follower of his comic runs, so not sure if that was the only time he did that.But when he try to go into Doomsday's mind, to see why he hated, and wanted to kill Superman so badly, he saw Doomsday's creator, and how he was born, and why he wanted Superman dead.