Sentry vs. Gladiator

Originally posted by bbrem123
thor took greater damage? how so?...sentry got stab in the side by an axe...

driving force?...pretty sure everybody with the amp did similar damage...and all the other heros were obviously beyond herald level since they did more damage then a non amp thor(who is high herald) am i wrong?

U-Foes/Dark Avengers/Osborn's cronies/Sentry dive bomb > Ares' axe, I'd wager.

No, not everyone else did damage on par with what Thor produced. I don't even see how that's debatable. And no, nothing the other heroes did showed anything remotely close to being beyond heralds. We don't know what the hell Loki did with the Norn Stones, but it's clear that whatever it was, Thor was the major factor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
U-Foes/Dark Avengers/Osborn's cronies/Sentry dive bomb > Ares' axe, I'd wager.

No, not everyone else did damage on par with what Thor produced. I don't even see how that's debatable. And no, nothing the other heroes did showed anything remotely close to being beyond heralds. We don't know what the hell Loki did with the Norn Stones, but it's clear that whatever it was, Thor was the major factor.

thor could not hurt void prior the amp(fact)

heroes could after amp(fact)

so heroes are stronger then thor without amp...its very simple

besides the final blow thor did similar damage to what the others did with the norn stone amp... i dont see how you disagree with that...i will look back at the scans tho to make sure give me a sec

and if thor got axed in his side he would have been much worse off then the damage he took...so yea axe to side is greater then damage thor took.

Originally posted by bbrem123
shows sentry can end a treat thor cant

jsut pointing out u dont know that much about void

and didnt say that...ur putting words in my mouth...said every appearance of void has gone like that...and thor was there for some encounters...making siege no different then previous times

And Thor's ended threats Sentry hasn't and wouldn't be able to do. 😬

I know plenty, k thanx.

So, where does "Bob is the only one who can beat Bob" end, then? That's a no limits fallacy if you take that belief to the extreme.

Originally posted by bbrem123
we are using classic sentry no?...he also held back a great deal...also classic sentry didnt have many feats... imo sentry seemed beyond thor by what was shown...not saying it is a stomp by any means tho...just think sentry has the nod over thor

Yeah, this is about "Classic" Sentry or at least Sentry w/o Void feats/showings which makes all this conjecture about Siege and his other minis off topic.

yea thor amped did just as much damage as capt did....and it seemed to only annoy void...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Him fighting the same people Thor did with apparent better ease doesn't make him more powerful, though. Which is why you look at character histories as a whole instead of fixating on specific fights. His performance against those specific people might have been more impressive, but that in of itself doesn't make him > Thor.

Thor's also tooled AM before and Thor as a rule holds back a great deal of his overall power against Hulk.

I strongly disagree, especially if we're using Sentry w/o Void feats.

See the above.

I still don't get your point. How about this then... Sentry stalemated Genis who is>Thor and Sentry also stalemated Collective who has the power of every being on the planet and Collective>Thor. Let's also not forget that Sentry defeated Void and also stalemated Void and we have seen how Void and Thor fare against each other.

Sentry doesn't have as many showings as Thor but again, if we base their fights off of the people they have fared against, Sentry outshines Thor. Hell, you can even include Wolverine. Wolverine was punched by Sentry and classified Sentry punch as being hit by Galactus and Wolvy couldn't even land a lick whereas his fight against Thor... well..."things that make you go hhhmmm". The only time you can really use anything against Sentry is when his mind was unstable but besides that, every hero and villian on the planet feared him and acknowledged his power.

Thor has outright stated that he wanted to kill Savage Hulk and failed. Thor has also been beaten to sleep by Hulk. Thor has also been aided by the Avengers against the Hulk and still failed to drop him. Sentry fought the most powerful version of Hulk that has ever existed and this Hulk was PISSED and Sentry even let this "more powerful version of Hulk", get in some free punches (whereas Thor got his face caved in when Hulk used his hammer to hit him) and Sentry still taxed him.

Its not a bad thing that Sentry is over Thor Jake.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And Thor's ended threats Sentry hasn't and wouldn't be able to do. 😬

I know plenty, k thanx.

So, where does "Bob is the only one who can beat Bob" end, then? That's a no limits fallacy if you take that belief to the extreme.

Yeah, this is about "Classic" Sentry or at least Sentry w/o Void feats/showings which makes all this conjecture about Siege and his other minis off topic.

thor ended it because bob asked him to...which is why he didnt regenerate

who knows....we know that the stones were enough to aleast make him feel pain so go off that i guess...beats me man

ur right tho...off topic...back to sentry vs gladiator

Originally posted by carver9
I still don't get your point. How about this then... Sentry stalemated Genis who is>Thor and Sentry also stalemated Collective who has the power of every being on the planet and Collective>Thor. Let's also not forget that Sentry defeated Void and also stalemated Void and we have seen how Void and Thor fare against each other.

Sentry doesn't have as many showings as Thor but again, if we base their fights off of the people they have fared against, Sentry outshines Thor. Hell, you can even include Wolverine. Wolverine was punched by Sentry and classified Sentry punch as being hit by Galactus and Wolvy couldn't even land a lick whereas his fight against Thor... well..."things that make you go hhhmmm". The only time you can really use anything against Sentry is when his mind was unstable but besides that, every hero and villian on the planet feared him and acknowledged his power.

Thor has outright stated that he wanted to kill Savage Hulk and failed. Thor has also been beaten to sleep by Hulk. Thor has also been aided by the Avengers against the Hulk and still failed to drop him. Sentry fought the most powerful version of Hulk that has ever existed and this Hulk was PISSED and Sentry even let this "more powerful version of Hulk", get in some free punches (whereas Thor got his face caved in when Hulk used his hammer to hit him) and Sentry still taxed him.

Its not a bad thing that Sentry is over Thor Jake.

nice post

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime

Can't remember which mod it was but I am sure they are still here. If the other avengers would not have been there Blue Marvel would have finished him

If the Sentry would have pressed, when Blue Marvel was down instead of letting him talk and catch his breath, he wouldnt have gotten punched in the first place.

Bob wins

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation and this isn't even the highest sentry showing by any means.

Sentry does win against Gladiator due to being more powerful by a country mile.

Originally posted by h1a8
Name a feat by Sentry that compares to destroying a planet in a few blows. This may not even be Gladiator at his full confidence level. There may be even another level for him.

How about throwing punches with Genis that were powerful enough to destroy planets. Is that comparable?

While holding back.

But it was from the energy they were blasting off, not just from punches.

Originally posted by Mindset
While holding back.

But it was from the energy they were blasting off, not from punches.

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that. 😂

Originally posted by h1a8
Name a feat by Sentry that compares to destroying a planet in a few blows. This may not even be Gladiator at his full confidence level. There may be even another level for him.

Originally posted by tkitna
If the Sentry would have pressed, when Blue Marvel was down instead of letting him talk and catch his breath, he wouldnt have gotten punched in the first place.

Bob wins

Would'a could'a shoud'a You live in a fantasy world....you are imagining things in a comic as if you were writing it.

Originally posted by Existere
ANOTHER LEVEL!?!?

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Gladiator 10/10 in both fights. Sentry was knocked out by Blue marvel...and before you say it didnt happen one of the moderators on here agreed sentry eyes were rolled in the back of his head and he was out cold. It was a KMC KO!!! He was gone two pages

Can't remember which mod it was but I am sure they are still here. If the other avengers would not have been there Blue Marvel would have finished him

Gladiator would rock the sentry any day of the week. He is a more trained fighter. Hell he is a soldier and was trained by the Shiar to be a killer. Gladiator would beat him to death.

Edit it was Bada

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=497195&pagenumber=3

Originally posted by Philosophía
He'll go Super Saiyan!

ITS OVER 9000!!

Would Gladiator's mohawk transform into a full blown Afro with a SSJ transformation? if so he wins by sheer awesomeness alone; that and he will seduce that blonde chick known as Sentry.

Originally posted by tkitna
How about throwing punches with Genis that were powerful enough to destroy planets. Is that comparable?

Originally posted by h1a8
How do you reason that they were powerful enough to destroy planets, not that I don't believe you though.