Characters Statements vs Hyperbole

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, but when you get into the the sextillion-septillion range, an increase in mass by a factor of 80 is a very huge one.

But yeah, its messed up.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, but when you get into the the sextillion-septillion range, an increase in mass by a factor of 80 is a very huge one.

That said, I also believe that Vegeta could at the very least have destroyed all life on Earth with that attack, but it's weird how attacks that overpower 'planet/solar system busting' attacks do not cause such devastation.

Hyperbole can exist anywhere, even in manga/anime.

You can't always base things off of collateral damage because if that was the case, Superman wouldn't be a city buster since him and Darkseid fought in a barn and caused no damage to it. Thanos wouldn't have the power to shed a city , let alone a country since him and Thor was going all out in a room and nothing was destroyed. The explosion from DBZ blast is the main focul point, not the length of the hole that it creates from a power struggle.

Going by that logic, Galactus would be a mere weakling since he went all out against Tenebrous and Aegis and the planet didn't suffer any type of damage (the planet they were fighting on).

Originally posted by carver9
Going by that logic, Galactus would be a mere weakling since he went all out against Tenebrous and Aegis and the planet didn't suffer any type of damage (the planet they were fighting on).

If you cant breath in space being a planet buster must be quite annoying. Cant go all out :/

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um.. except Galactus has TONS of feats of destroying planets (its what he does). If it was only the Tenebrous/Aegis fight we had to go by, then it would just be hyperbole.

The inherent difference between DBZ and shit like Galactus or Superman, is that we have SEEN them destroy what they are claimed to, we have seen a weak Galactus destroy three solar systems easily.

We have never seen anything beyond planet busting in DBZ.

^Didn't Buu do destruction on a larger scale then a planet? Can't recall the particular scene[flashback?] too well.

Originally posted by carver9
You can't always base things off of collateral damage because if that was the case, Superman wouldn't be a city buster since him and Darkseid fought in a barn and caused no damage to it. Thanos wouldn't have the power to shed a city , let alone a country since him and Thor was going all out in a room and nothing was destroyed. The explosion from DBZ blast is the main focul point, not the length of the hole that it creates from a power struggle.

Going by that logic, Galactus would be a mere weakling since he went all out against Tenebrous and Aegis and the planet didn't suffer any type of damage (the planet they were fighting on).

Okay, I fully understand what you are saying, and this is what I have to say:
Does the Kamehameha explode, and if it does, has it ever exploded with a wide enough radius to envelop a Solar System? If it does not explode, Cell was engaging in hyperbole when he said his Kamehameha could destroy the Solar System.

And as a side-note, Galactus is a proven Planet Buster, and has a bunch of feats proving it. Characters that state they can do something/have X level of power, but never really prove it, are engaging in hyperbole. If sufficient evidence exists whereby we can conclude that they weren't engaging in hyperbole, then yeah.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Not for Vegeta its not uhuh

Naturally...It's freakin' Vegeta.
Goku obviously is a different story, as is everyone else. awesome

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um.. except Galactus has TONS of feats of destroying planets (its what he does). If it was only the Tenebrous/Aegis fight we had to go by, then it would just be hyperbole.

So you don't think Tenebrous and Aegis could destroy a planet? Think wisely before anwering that. You don't always have to base things off of feats because feats isn't be all rule all... sometimes you have to look past feats. I think Doomsday could destroy the fantastic four head quarters with a single punch, don't you? Do you think Thanos could blast a planet to dust because he sure as hell doesn't have the feats? Do you think Darkseid could toss a mountain? I can go on for days. Depowered Tyrant never destroyed a planet so do you think he could?

Now when we look at common sense. A character at a power level of 100 destroying a moon and then compare him to someone who is trillions of times more powerful than him... that's when common sense comes into place.

Of course Akira wouldn't have Cell destroy the solar system, that would have been the end of DBZ but again, Cell is millions of times more powerful than Roshi.

Let's not turn this into a DBZ thread.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Okay, I fully understand what you are saying, and this is what I have to say:
Does the Kamehameha explode, and if it does, has it ever exploded with a wide enough radius to envelop a Solar System? If it does not explode, Cell was engaging in hyperbole when he said his Kamehameha could destroy the Solar System.

And as a side-note, Galactus is a proven Planet Buster, and has a bunch of feats proving it. Characters that state they can do something/have X level of power, but never really prove it, are engaging in hyperbole. If sufficient evidence exists whereby we can conclude that they weren't engaging in hyperbole, then yeah.

Naturally...It's freakin' Vegeta.
Goku obviously is a different story, as is everyone else. awesome

The kamehameha has exploded numerous of times and it the kamehameha has been stated by true power level readers as having enough force to wipe a planet clean from the solar system. Roshi kamehameha exploded to destroy the moon.

Galactus have proven it but numerous of other characters doesn't share feats.

Originally posted by carver9
Has there ever been an instance in Anime where a character states that he can do something but failed to do it? This incident cannot involve plot.

In Bleach, Yammy told Byakuya and Kenpachi that the more angry he got, the more powerful he would become and would humiliate them. Later on, the two soul reapers returned to the soul society and Kenpachi stated that the fight was "boring as f***." The next scene showed Yammy lying on the ground, looking like he was the one who got humiliated 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
So you don't think Tenebrous and Aegis could destroy a planet? Think wisely before anwering that.

You're missing the point. If all we had to go on that fight, then it'd be safe to assume none of them could planet bust.

But "matching a foe who has been shown repeatedly to be able to do something," is good reason for believability on being able to do that thing.

If you have characters of equal level who claim planet-busting but only do stuff like the G v A&T fight, hyperbole makes a lot more sense. One of 'em actually puts their money where their mouth is and it makes sense for all of them to be telling the truth.

You don't always have to base things off of feats because feats isn't be all rule all... sometimes you have to look past feats. I think Doomsday could destroy the fantastic four head quarters with a single punch, don't you? Do you think Thanos could blast a planet to dust because he sure as hell doesn't have the feats? Do you think Darkseid could toss a mountain? I can go on for days. Depowered Tyrant never destroyed a planet so do you think he could?

That's not looking past feats at all- they have feats against enemies with high destruction feats.