Originally posted by Harbinger
^ They've been deflected, though. IIRC, Wondy's bracers and Supes' heat vision have been able to. The Infinity Man deflected them with ease. I don't see why someone on Odin's level wouldn't be able to do the same.
Wondy's bracers isn't a low showing. Odin can't break that shield either. Heat Vision is PIS.
And no. Infinity Man has blocked the beams. The beams are NOT the Omega Effect. Big difference.
Originally posted by CHUMZWOLF
darkseid would own odin,ds omega beams cant be evaded or atleast i havent seen someone evade em
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHe said beams so once again you're wrong.
Wondy's bracers isn't a low showing. Odin can't break that shield either. Heat Vision is PIS.And no. Infinity Man has blocked the beams. The beams are NOT the Omega Effect. Big difference.
Originally posted by CHUMZWOLF
darkseid would own odin,ds omega beams cant be evaded or atleast i havent seen someone evade em
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThat's irrelevant to his statement. He said beams and superman has deflected the omega effect anyways.
Quan: There is a huge difference between the beams and the effect. The Effect is much more powerful. And even Infinity Man can't stop the effect.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestI disagree and have seen the beams deflected multiple times as well. the writer chooses the terminology but I personally don't see the difference between the two.
Ok he said beams. I didn't argue with that. And deflecting the OE? That's Apokolips now, that showing is PIS.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree and have seen the beams deflected multiple times as well. the writer chooses the terminology but I personally don't see the difference between the two.
The difference is the Omega Effect is the reality warping ability to erase a being from existence, such that they were never born. The beams are just a tool, a means to deliver said Omega Effect.
More often than not he just sprays his disintegration beams, any being with super durability can resist those for a time.
Originally posted by AllanklesIt's obvious the writers sometimes apply the same application or meaning of this whether they use the word beams or effect. That's the point.
The difference is the Omega Effect is the reality warping ability to erase a being from existence, such that they were never born. The beams are just a tool, a means to deliver said Omega Effect.More often than not he just sprays his disintegration beams, any being with super durability can resist those for a time.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's obvious the writers sometimes apply the same application or meaning of this whether they use the word beams or effect. That's the point.
And those writers clearly don't know what they're talking about. This is stuff that was established by the characters creators, if a writer uses terms that are not congruent with the actual abilities used, they're simply wrong.
The totality of his power is called the Omega Force, yet some writers call it the Omega Effect. The Omega Effect is a specific ability, not the name of his power source. To further expound on that Kirby specifically describes it as "The end of the end" or "the total wipe-out".
Originally posted by AllanklesIt's you who are wrong. The writers have more say and their stuff is canon not your opinion.
And those writers clearly don't know what they're talking about. This is stuff that was established by the characters creators, if a writer uses terms that are not congruent with the actual abilities used, they're simply wrong.The totality of his power is called the Omega Force, yet some writers call it the Omega Effect. The Omega Effect is a specific ability, not the name of his power source. To further expound on that Kirby specifically describes it as "The end of the end" or "the total wipe-out".
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's you who are wrong. The writers have more say and their stuff is canon not your opinion.
I'm talking about canon, not my opinion. Every writer that knew their source material used the right terms. Certainly guys like Bryne did and he was a huge part of the New Gods with JKFW. He also did Generations in 2002 or so, and used the terms as they were used by character's creator.
It's not rocket science, if you use the wrong terms, you're using the wrong terms.
Once the beam hits you, he could just switch to the OE. He doesn't have to keep shooting his Omega Beam. The thing is, the finder beam looks alot like the Omega Beam. Whichever one hits you is up to him. Darkseid alone is the only one who knows whether you're being hit by the beam or the effect. As shown when he desintegrated Kanto, just because you saw one, doesn't mean he didn't use the other.
It turned out he used the Omega Effect to send Kanto into the past, while making it look like he used the beams. So unless you see the effect, or he calls it out, don't assume which it is.
Basically, unless you see the wipeout, or he says he's doing something other than shooting a beam, it's probably the Omega Beams, not the effect.