A Pissed Odin vs Darkseid/Thanos

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus7 pages

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Odin wins, Thanos was never a real threat.

Funny enough, Odin words contradict this statement. What narration are u referring to that backs this up?

Odin giving Thanos verbal props doesn’t trump what the fight actually showed.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Once the beam hits you, he could just switch to the OE. He doesn't have to keep shooting his Omega Beam. The thing is, the finder beam looks alot like the Omega Beam. Whichever one hits you is up to him. Darkseid alone is the only one who knows whether you're being hit by the beam or the effect. As shown when he desintegrated Kanto, just because you saw one, doesn't mean he didn't use the other.

It turned out he used the Omega Effect to send Kanto into the past, while making it look like he used the beams. So unless you see the effect, or he calls it out, don't assume which it is.

Basically, unless you see the wipeout, or he says he's doing something other than shooting a beam, it's probably the Omega Beams, not the effect.

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Most heroes have never even tasted the OE, otherwise the stories would be over in a panel or two.

What did the fight show? Odin killing Thanos for the win? Nope. Odin KOing Thanos for the win? Nope. Thanos verbally tapping and not wanting to continue? Nope. So what about the fight contradicted the narration from ODIN'S OWN MOUTH? Ya know the whole... I haven't had a fight like this in EONS.. along with other narration you should be well aware of by now. So please, point me to the narration that says Thanos was no thread to Odin? Which is even funnier considering Thanos made Odin his ***** with prep and planning after. So clearly, he was a threat then and after.

Hyperbole that is contradicted by Odin's other on-panel fights. The fight is a good showing for Thanos’ durability….but that’s all it is.

Thanos was never a threat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Ok. The first 5 are during OWAW. Darkseid had used a massive amount of power to help break Imperiex Prime's armor. And those are obviously the beams, as per the rule I stated. Not a low showing.

#6 is Apokolips Now. That showing is PIS.

#7 is Countdown. I'm ashamed of you. 🙁 Bringing up Countdown? Hell, that's the beam right there again.

The last 3 are once again, the beams. And yeah, Infinity Man deflected them. But he still gets bitched out by his brother every time they've had an actual fight. And he's lost twice to the effect.

^Are you sure his Omega Effect/Beams were weakened? And how do you decide whether or not it's the Omega Effect? I'm also missing a scan when there are on New Genisis and Darkseid strikes Clark with them for the first time.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, that was Starlin being Starlin. Thanos' reservoirs are not nearly as limitless as Odin's, Thanos is not a foe unlike any Odin has fought in eons. This is not a matter of opinion. We know it to not be true. Christ, even the fight itself doesn't support it. It was about 6 pages of at significantly lower levels than his full power -base level Odin- beating the crap out of Thanos.

Call it hyperbole, bullshit or whatever you want, I don't particularly care. Just don't use it to put Thanos on a pedestal we know he isn't on.

I'm betting the same people who harp on the dialogue would refuse to acknowledge Warlock and co. pointing out that the fight was finally over.

Those scans just go to show you that no one has ever written a good conflict between Supes and DS. It's either Darkseid pwning Supes in a panel or two in Super Powers, DOTNG and the like or those encounters in Confidential, Apokolips Now etc And he didn't even hit Supes with the OE once in all those fights.

To think that it took an animated series to really produce a great story between the two is a shame to the comic writers. The only thing that comes close was Superman: The Darkside and that was Elseworld.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Odin giving Thanos verbal props doesn’t trump what the fight actually showed.
This. That damn fight is one of the most overblown "feats" for a character on this board.

Probably the team. Odin isn't beating Thanos and Seid.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Hyperbole that is contradicted by Odin's other on-panel fights. The fight is a good showing for Thanos’ durability….but that’s all it is.

Thanos was never a threat.

Obviously was because after that fight he made odin his b1tch with ease and had him at his mercy. So clearly, he was a threat when he could've easily killed him. Not a threat... Not only is that contradicted by their fight but also after when Thanos owned him with a basic plan. It was that easy.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Obviously was because after that fight he made odin his b1tch with ease and had him at his mercy. So clearly, he was a threat when he could've easily killed him. Not a threat... Not only is that contradicted by their fight but also after when Thanos owned him with a basic plan. It was that easy.

At no point in that fight was Thanos a threat.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok. The first 5 are during OWAW. Darkseid had used a massive amount of power to help break Imperiex Prime's armor. And those are obviously the beams, as per the rule I stated. Not a low showing.

#6 is Apokolips Now. That showing is PIS.

#7 is Countdown. I'm ashamed of you. 🙁 Bringing up Countdown? Hell, that's the beam right there again.

The last 3 are once again, the beams. And yeah, Infinity Man deflected them. But he still gets bitched out by his brother every time they've had an actual fight. And he's lost twice to the effect.


So 2/3 of these showings are completely legitimate outside of your own opinion?

Originally posted by Allankles
I'm talking about canon, not my opinion. Every writer that knew their source material used the right terms. Certainly guys like Bryne did and he was a huge part of the New Gods with JKFW. He also did Generations in 2002 or so, and used the terms as they were used by character's creator.

It's not rocket science, if you use the wrong terms, you're using the wrong terms.

Wrong. The writer can define these terms however they want to not you. You always want to pick and choose what counts and what doesn't. That to me suggests a high amount of bias.

Originally posted by Silent Master
At no point in that fight was Thanos a threat.
This

OE just aint what it used to be. I find it plausible that Odin can defend himself from it as he is more powerfull than regular DS overall.

as for the battle, team prolly wins, but odin might take on of them with him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
At no point in that fight was Thanos a threat.

QFT.

I think team wins, but concerning that fight? Thanos looked like dog-crap at the end of the encounter whereas Odin was more or less like "Come at me, bro!"

Originally posted by King Kandy
So 2/3 of these showings are completely legitimate outside of your own opinion?

Legit? Sure. But they should be discussed in context. Not used to lowball. Or used to mistaken lowball the OE.

Originally posted by Silent Master
At no point in that fight was Thanos a threat.

So one fight determines a threat to you. You made the GENERAL statement that Thanos is no threat to Odin. Yet, didn't Thanos have Odin drug'd and at his mercy with the most basic of plans? He could've killed Odin with ease and had him in a coma like state to do what he wanted. So clearly when you can make someone ur b1tch and have them at your mercy.. you are a threat to them.. So your general sweeping statement just got sh1t on.