Iroh "V" Aang (The last airbender)
Iroh "V" Aang
This fight happens as the winner gets to save the one they love most.
Iroh's victory gets to save Zuko and Aangs gets to save Katara.
No politics just a battle between Aang and Ioh.
Setting : Midday... near a river, on earth
The day after the episode "avatar aang". As in iroh is extremely strong and fit, and aang has his energy bending and all that going on.
No politics nothing as such just who would win.
Originally posted by andrei1095
I would say Iroh.. because of his experience. Knowledge of firebending and his ability to create lightning.
Means nothing against a person that can redirect lightning, and can bend all 4 elements with Master-Bender level skill. Energy Bending won't even come into play.
Uhuh...
Yeah Iroh did not neglect to fight Ozai because he knew he would fail, it was due to the fact that history would see it as just another man killing his brother for power.
Notice that when Aang fought Ozai during Sozin's Comet, he had his ass beaten. Until entering the Avatar State, he was clearly losing the battle. And keep in mind Aang himself was using a lot of Firebending to survive, utilising the power of the Comet as well.
Iroh is, barring Ozai, the most powerful Firebender in the series. And while Aang does wield all four elements, Iroh's skill with Firebending is greater than Aang's skill using any of his elements. Zuko and Toph directly stated Aang still had much to learn in terms of using their elements.
Iroh probably wins.
Originally posted by NemeBrowhat's stopping Aang from entering the avatar state if Iroh begins to overwhelm him?
I must be missing something.Where is it said that Iroh is fighting Aang in the Avatar State?
It says that the fight takes place after the episode "Avatar Aang," the last Sozin's Comet episode.
Does not mean he is in the Avatar State, gawd.
Also, Aang was "getting his ass beaten" by an amped Ozai... this is the day after the comet so Iroh wont have that amp. One more thing, check out the fight location...
Originally posted by NemeBrotbf Aang would've murdered Ozai with that lightning bolt if it wasnt for his CIS, so even no avatar state (no CIS) I say Aang could beat Ozai.
Notice that when Aang fought Ozai during Sozin's Comet, he had his ass beaten. Until entering the Avatar State, he was clearly losing the battle. And keep in mind Aang himself was using a lot of Firebending to survive, utilising the power of the Comet as well.
Also I think Iroh > Ozai. He's more skilled and experienced. It's just plot required Aang to kick his ass, or Iroh would've.
Originally posted by marwash22You mean other than that rarely ever happening?
what's stopping Aang from entering the avatar state if Iroh begins to overwhelm him?Also, Aang was "getting his ass beaten" by an amped Ozai... this is the day after the comet so Iroh wont have that amp. One more thing, check out the fight location...
And Aang was also amped. You all need to stop pretending he wasn't.
A river on Earth. I know. What is your point?
Originally posted by NemeBroit hardly ever happened, because up until the last episode of the entire series, he didn't know how to access the avatar state at will. He did it casually to extinguish the forest fire after he beat Ozai; and before he knew how to do it at will, he accessed it countless times throughout the series when he was under duress. So, to say that "it rarely ever happened" is both misleading and irrelevant.
You mean other than that rarely ever happening?
fact remains, he can do it and will do it if Iroh gets the upper hand... which i doubt would happen considering Aang has a 3 to 1 element advantage.
Originally posted by NemeBrodid Aang ever actually use firebending during the fight with Ozai? I honestly cant recall him using it until he went into the avatar state... which wasn't him at all.
And Aang was also amped. You all need to stop pretending he wasn't.
Originally posted by NemeBroThat's a lot of water, brah.
A river on Earth. I know. What is your point?
You mean other than that rarely ever happening?
Day after Sozins Comet means Aang has full control of the Avatar state as shown by him casually going into it after he pwned Ozai. Iroh has no chance.
And Aang was also amped. You all need to stop pretending he wasn't.
Only in terms of fire-bending..... which he didn't actually use in the fight. 😬
Aang > every non-Amped cast member by the end of the series. His ordinary bending is powerful enough to stand up to Amped-Ozai, who's already the most powerful fire-bender in the world, when his powers are much greater than usual, without any amps himself (in terms of water, air and earth-bending). Iroh has a chance if this was during Sozin's Comet, but after, when Aang can go into teh Avatar State at will (!) he gets curb-the ****-stomped.
And guys one more thing.... We have never seen aang simply pop into the avatar state during battle.. so until it is proven he can without the pressure and near death experience.... then he cant. Roku... he wasnt in the avatar state when he died.... yet he was so experienced... implying that the state cannot simply be "popped" on during a fight.
Originally posted by andrei1095errr, Roku died fighting a friggin volcano, while he was poisoned; and iirc, he did enter the avatar state.
And guys one more thing.... We have never seen aang simply pop into the avatar state during battle.. so until it is proven he can without the pressure and near death experience.... then he cant. Roku... he wasnt in the avatar state when he died.... yet he was so experienced... implying that the state cannot simply be "popped" on during a fight.
Also, as it has already been mentioned, Aang CAN simply "pop into the avatar state", as he did it in less than a second while making the water rise to put out the forest fire.
Furthermore, even if it did take time, he could simply make the rock dome as he did in the fight against Ozai... it should be noted that an amped Ozai couldn't even break through Aang's rock shield immediately. Aang also has an entire body of water to work with. He could dump a crap load of water on Iroh, freeze it and enter the avatar state if he needed time.
yeah, this is a stomp. No one person (who isn't an avatar) can beat EOS Aang.