Marvel's "DEMONSTRABLY" strongest character.

Started by CosmicComet8 pages
Originally posted by Mindset
Not seeing how it's a better feat. The reason Hulk didn't lift the mountain because it was dropped on top of him, which is harder than lifting it from the ground, discounting the fact that he'd have to rip it up from the earth. Hulk was also doing this unaided.

As you said, discounting ripping it up from the earth holding up a falling mountain is harder than simply deadlifting it. Not discounting ripping it up from the ground, it becomes more difficult to say.

Unfortunately for hulk, his feat was not without conditions and he didn't simply hold up a mountain that was dropped on him:

There you have it. Iron Man and Hulk made a space for themselves just before landing so they wouldn't be insta-squashed.

The vast majority of the mountain was being supported by the land surrounding them (hence me saying Hulk was aided), so yes the hulk was only supporting the small area above him, Tony, Steve, the F4 and couple of other people.

150 billion tons is simply the weight of the mountain itself, not the actual weight that Hulk was holding up by himself.

Zeus' feat is clearly superior.

Originally posted by dmills
No one above HH 😛

Ok, Zeus didn't rip it from the Earth either, so moot point.

The comic said Hulk held 150 billion tons, which means that's what he held, the entire mountain range would weigh more than that, it dwarfed the Andes.

Zeus feat is clearly not superior since you don't even have a weight for how much he lifted. Also, from the scan it looks like Zeus didn't get out from under the mountain.

Why are we even talking about mountain lifting?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxstarbusting.jpg

That is PC superboy-level type sh*t.

Where do you think an active volcano comes from if not from rooted ground? Did he pluck out of the air while it was floating?

No, the comic cover said that they were underneath 150 billion tons. Unfortunately, the comic showed us that Hulk was never supporting that full weight by himself. All he did was serve it from collapsing on them by bracing it. And the only part that he was bracing was the 10 foot diameter or so that they were trapped in an all the material directly above it. Everything else, was supported by ground they were standing on/surrounded by.

Don't equivocate please. Hulk never held up the actual mountain range, only the small area above his and his friends' heads, so its pointless bringing that term up.

I don't need to find an exact figure, although I am still looking. A mountain is a mountain. Zeus held up a whole one by himself over his head and then dropped it on someone. Hulk braced a very thin portion of one temporarily and struggled.

To give an idea though, I remember reading a few years back someone estimating Mt. Everest to be over 300 trillion tons. Mt. Etna is only like 40% as tall, but its also several times wider.

Originally posted by Mindset
Hulk, pulling tectonic plates back together

This feat is insane

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
This feat is insane
I agree the answer for me is clearly the Hulk.

Originally posted by Simbon
Why are we even talking about mountain lifting?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxstarbusting.jpg

That is PC superboy-level type sh*t.

Yes you won this several posts ago.

We are discussing other things just to be douchebags.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree the answer for me is clearly the Hulk.
yup

Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, Zeus didn't rip it from the Earth either, so moot point.

The comic said Hulk held 150 billion tons, which means that's what he held, the entire mountain range would weigh more than that, it dwarfed the Andes.

Zeus feat is clearly not superior since you don't even have a weight for how much he lifted. Also, from the scan it looks like Zeus didn't get out from under the mountain.

The comic said that? I'm pretty sure that was only stated on the cover and not inside the actual comic.

You can't seriously be arguing that the Hulk held up 150 Billion Tons. That was clearly not what happened.

Would the Midgard Serpent feat with Thor count or is unquantifiable etc.?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The comic said that? I'm pretty sure that was only stated on the cover and not inside the actual comic.

You can't seriously be arguing that the Hulk held up 150 Billion Tons. That was clearly not what happened.

So the cover openly deceived the reader with the amount of weight ? What's wrong with you ?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Would the Midgard Serpent feat with Thor count or is unquantifiable etc.?

It shouldn't be unquantifiable.

How many times did it wrap around the earth? Did it say that? Or can we come to that conclusion from the art? I haven't seen that scan in forever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So the cover openly deceived the reader with the amount of weight ? What's wrong with you ?

What's wrong with me? What's wrong with you?

Best case scenario, the mountain range actually weighed 150 Billion Tons but in no way is that comic cover proof that Hulk actually held up all that weight. No one can possibly come to that conclusion after reading it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Would the Midgard Serpent feat with Thor count or is unquantifiable etc.?
not imo.

if the serpent was wrapped around the planet, Thor lifted (at least) the weight of Earth.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What's wrong with me? What's wrong with you?

Best case scenario, the mountain range actually weighed 150 Billion Tons but in no way is that comic cover proof that Hulk actually held up all that weight. No one can possibly come to that conclusion after reading it.

That's exactly what he did no matter how ridiculous it sounds or how silly. The comic clearly told us the weight on the cover. I hate when people start making claims the writers are lying to us when there isn't any proof to the contrary.

Hulk's stronger than Thor. Get over it.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Where do you think an active volcano comes from if not from rooted ground? Did he pluck out of the air while it was floating?

No, the comic said that they were underneath 150 billion tons. Unfortunately, the comic showed us that Hulk was never supporting that full weight by himself. All he did was serve it from collapsing on them by bracing it. And the only part that he was bracing was the 10 foot diameter or so that they were trapped in an all the material directly above it. Everything else, was supported by ground they were standing on/surrounded by.

Don't equivocate please. Hulk never held up the actual mountain range, only the small area above his and his friends' heads, so its pointless bringing that term up.

I don't need to find an exact figure, although I am still looking. A mountain is a mountain. Zeus held up a whole one by himself over his head and then dropped it on someone. Hulk braced a very thin portion of one temporarily and struggled.

To give an idea though, I remember reading a few years back someone estimating Mt. Everest to be over 300 trillion tons. Mt. Etna is only like 40% as tall, but its also several times wider.

Yes, they where under 150 billion tons of rock, they can't be under something that isn't above them, thus, Hulk is supporting 150 billion tons of rock.

I never said Hulk held up the entire mountain range...that "small" area he held above his head was under miles of rock, which totaled 150 billion tons. Do you really think the entire mountain range, one that dwarfed the Andes, only weighed 150 billion tons? If so, Idk what to tell you.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
It shouldn't be unquantifiable.

How many times did it wrap around the earth? Did it say that? Or can we come to that conclusion from the art? I haven't seen that scan in forever.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent3.jpg

Originally posted by marwash22
not imo.

if the serpent was wrapped around the planet, Thor lifted (at least) the weight of Earth.

Not necessarily.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The comic said that? I'm pretty sure that was only stated on the cover and not inside the actual comic.

You can't seriously be arguing that the Hulk held up 150 Billion Tons. That was clearly not what happened.

I'll refer you to my above post.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, they where under 150 billion tons of rock, they can't be under something that isn't above them, thus, Hulk is supporting 150 billion tons of rock.

I never said Hulk held up the entire mountain range...that "small" area he held above his head was under miles of rock, which totaled 150 billion tons. Do you really think the entire mountain range, one that dwarfed the Andes, only weighed 150 billion tons? If so, Idk what to tell you.

No, I never said the mountain range was only a 150 billion tons. Not sure how you got that. The particular, single mountain peak that was above them was attributed as having the 150 billion tons. Not the few mile tall, 10 ft diameter 'pillar' that the hulk was supporting within that peak. Do you need me to draw a quick diagram of this for you? 🙂