Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, they where under 150 billion tons of rock, they can't be under something that isn't above them, thus, Hulk is supporting 150 billion tons of rock.I never said Hulk held up the entire mountain range...that "small" area he held above his head was under miles of rock, which totaled 150 billion tons. Do you really think the entire mountain range, one that dwarfed the Andes, only weighed 150 billion tons? If so, Idk what to tell you.
What are you saying here exactly? That the portion the Hulk was directly exerting his strength against is 150 Billion Tons or the part of the mountain range they were under is a 150 Billion Tons? Two very different things.
And IIRC, the Hulk pointed out that he was bracing it due to some good leverage, and wouldn't last very long.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's exactly what he did no matter how ridiculous it sounds or how silly. The comic clearly told us the weight on the cover. I hate when people start making claims the writers are lying to us when there isn't any proof to the contrary.Hulk's stronger than Thor. Get over it.
Hulk by title might be stronger than Thor, but by quantifiable feats, he is not.
Thor and Herc nearly tipping the planet off its axis by arm-wrestling >>> WWH's feats.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympuspeople in general use leverag to lift or hold stuff. he wouldnt hold it indefinitely, true, but so what?
What are you saying here exactly? That the portion the Hulk was directly exerting his strength against is 150 Billion Tons or the part of the mountain range they were under is a 150 Billion Tons? Two very different things.And IIRC, the Hulk pointed out that he was bracing it due to some good leverage, and wouldn't last very long.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's exactly what he did no matter how ridiculous it sounds or how silly. The comic clearly told us the weight on the cover. I hate when people start making claims the writers are lying to us when there isn't any proof to the contrary.Hulk's stronger than Thor. Get over it.
First of all, comic covers are in no way indicative of the actual content inside so don't even waste my time if that's going to be your argument.
Secondly, I thought the comic made it quite clear that your interpretation is flawed. It was said that the Hulk dug out a spot for them so they weren't squashed and it was stated that they were directly under only 2 miles of land or something.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MidgardSerpent2.jpg
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Thanks.
The Serpent itself despite its size would not be calced to anywhere near the weight of the moon let alone the earth. But IIRC, this is even close to Thor's greatest strength feat with all said and done. Did he not support a weight equivalent to several planets once?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you saying here exactly? That the portion the Hulk was directly exerting his strength against is 150 Billion Tons or the part of the mountain range they were under is a 150 Billion Tons? Two very different things.And IIRC, the Hulk pointed out that he was bracing it due to some good leverage, and wouldn't last very long.
Yes, the scan I posted on the page before noted he had leverage, and as I said the portion that he was supporting was never stated to be 150 billion tons. The actual mountain peak that was above them was attributed as having that weight. In all truthfulness he probably braced 1% of its total weight.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Thanks.The Serpent itself despite its size would not be calced to anywhere near the weight of the moon let alone the earth. But IIRC correctly, this is even close to Thor's greatest strength feat with all said and done. Did he not support a weight equivalent to several planets once?
Lifting the Serpent -although still up there in terms of numbers- is not as impressive as overpowering it and breaking it's grip.
At one point, he shrugged off the weight of half a planet, overpowered the force of a Neutron Star, and Umar pressed the weight of a score of planets on Thor or some such.
Originally posted by 753
he said seconds, maybe one minute. it is still amssive and isnt even his best feat
Cool. I never said it wasn't impressive, people just try place the feat on a pedestal it doesn't deserve to be on simply because of the large numbers involved.
Nah, it's not. The tectonic plates feat of the less powerful Green Scar is noticeably more impressive to me.
Originally posted by marwash22
does it say anywhere how dense the serpent is? dont think we assume the thing has the same makeup as a typical snake.
It doesn't to my knowledge, and you are absolutely correct it would be impossible for it to be that big by simply scaling up an anaconda as it would collapse from its own weight before it ever got anywhere near that size.
But the unquantifiable problems comes in from trying to work out its density on our own. I would guess its skin would be at least a quintillion times more dense than a normal snake, and even that is probably underestimating by far too much.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yes, the scan I posted on the page before noted he had leverage, and as I said the portion that he was supporting was never stated to be 150 billion tons. The actual mountain peak that was above them was attributed as having that weight. In all truthfulness he probably braced 1% of its total weight.
Saw it. Thanks.
Originally posted by CosmicCometThe weight that is being supported is 150 billion tons. If Hulk is under it, he's supporting it.
No, I never said the mountain range was only a 150 billion tons. Not sure how you got that. The particular, single mountain peak that was above them was attributed as having the 150 billion tons. Not the few mile tall, 10 ft diameter 'pillar' that the hulk was supporting within that peak. Do you need me to draw a quick diagram of this for you? 🙂
The cover says "Beneath 150 billion tons stands the Hulk and he's not happy".
Inside the comic says they are "deep beneath billions of tons of stone".
Originally posted by Mindset
The weight that is being supported is 150 billion tons. If Hulk is under it, he's supporting it.The cover says "Beneath 150 billion tons stands the Hulk and he's not happy".
Inside the comic says they are "deep beneath billions of tons of stone".
Unfortunately, what is above the hulk is only the amount of rock that fits within the width of the wedge they are stuck in. The rest of the mountain is resting on ground.
You can keep the 150 billion tons figure if you want, its reasonable for the section that he was holding up of since it was such a large mountain overall, despite the book attributing it to the weight of the peak and not the section he supported. Point is I've established that Zeus' feat is better. Mt Etna definitely weighs more than 150 billion tons, and Zeus wasn't simply bracing it for a few minutes either.
