Ultraman vs. Gladiator

Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777
Spite indeed... against ultraman.. Gladiator would stomp ultraman into the ground just like he would do to superman. Ultraman would put up a better fight than superman, but still lose badly. Gladiator has a planet destroying feat under his belt.. thats something superman,captain marvel,black adam and ultraman can only dream about being able to do with strength. As for the comment about superman doing the things gladiator HAS done on adverage?? LMAO.. Superman has never in any comic book did any of those things. Funny how people claim characters can do something yet thousands of comic books say they cannot..... gladiator 10/10 with ease.

are u trickster's alter ego?!?!?!?!

Originally posted by carver9
I give up.

No, you won't. You'll just pop up in another thread and say the same BS.

Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777
Spite indeed... against ultraman.. Gladiator would stomp ultraman into the ground just like he would do to superman. Ultraman would put up a better fight than superman, but still lose badly. Gladiator has a planet destroying feat under his belt.. thats something superman,captain marvel,black adam and ultraman can only dream about being able to do with strength. As for the comment about superman doing the things gladiator HAS done on adverage?? LMAO.. Superman has never in any comic book did any of those things. Funny how people claim characters can do something yet thousands of comic books say they cannot..... gladiator 10/10 with ease.

I like this guy.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
No, you won't. You'll just pop up in another thread and say the same BS.

Is this Pr?

😕

I told you 3 times I was playing about Supergirl. Stop being so serious buddy.

As for the fight, Gladiator 7/10.

Originally posted by carver9
Is this Pr?

😕

I told you 3 times I was playing about Supergirl. Stop being so serious buddy.

As for the fight, Gladiator 7/10.

I'm not serious. 😛

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I'm not serious. 😛

Damn 😠

Trick makes things up that has never happened in a comic book, but he gets support while making false claims about DC characters like superman, WW etc. You know his supporters, they rule this place in numbers. How can anyone debate for their character when you have 40 or 50 people that will vote ultraman because he reminds them of the overwanked superman??.. I dont blame carver for giving up.

Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777
Trick makes things up that has never happened in a comic book, but he gets support while making false claims about DC characters like superman, WW etc. You know his supporters, they rule this place in numbers. How can anyone debate for their character when you have 40 or 50 people that will vote ultraman because he reminds them of the overwanked superman??.. I dont blame carver for giving up.

Damn I am falling in love.

Originally posted by carver9
Damn I am falling in love.

Then go marry him! 😮‍💨

Lol.

Well.

I think, if anything, Trick probably polarizes a great deal of posters against him - and I think he'll probably tell you that and maybe even revel in it. *shrug*

I highly doubt we have 40-50 active members who would weigh in on this thread, much less vote for Ultraman, and even less because of "Superman wanking". Superman's treated 50/50 on this board, imo. For everyone who tries to put him on a pedestal he's not on, you'll come across people who act like he's a mid herald and every legitimate feat/win he has in comics is PIS or because of his "Super-aura".

I seriously don't get how the hell Gladiator wins 10/10 outside of "full confidence" which is a damn myth anyway the way people act like it's a freaking amp.

Jake, superman has good feats. but what makes me laugh is when i come to a forum that allows false claims to be used.. superman has never blitz at light speed, never fought at anywhere near light speed or the laughable hundreds of planet shattering punches. Yet it is allowed in a forum battle??? you cannot use cross-overs or hyperbole in a forum battle, but you can use flat out lies because hes superman who has many many fans making those false claims?? As for the full confidences thing about gladiator... Thats the guys powerset, its in comics, thats a fact... The myth is superman being soooo much stronger if hes bloodlusted.. thats a flat out lie. Superman strength does not increase because hes bloodlusted or not holding back.. yet it is used on here in forum battles.. I wonder why?

By the way jake, superman is not treated 50/50 on here. More like 90/10. I say this because of the laughable claims he gets and just by looking at some of the characters certain people think he can beat.. thanos, odin, zeus etc.

It's because of full capacity and what we have seen Superman do on panel. In comics, he doesn't speedblitz people a whole lot of the time, but he has done it. In a forum setting, such a tactic would be plausible, but probable? That's what a lot of people debate. In character, I don't see Superman speedblitzing people or severely exploiting his speed unless he's really pushed to. Planetary strength? Superman's shown that. He may not have busted a planet in the exact same manner that Glads did, but based on his feats and what Superman has done, I find it hard to believe that he's not capable of such a feat. On panel feats are good, great even, but common sense and the ability to connect the dots are important too. We've seen Superman rebuild a city in seconds using speed; would punching someone with similiar speed be impossible for him? Unlikely given his character/personality, but possible? I think so.

Fully confident Gladiator is a myth in the sense that people think he's greatly ampflied beyond normal when virtually every comic he's in that mentions his confidence being a factor is only when said confidence is being diminished. He's fully confident unless it's been shown or stated or alluded that he's not. Otherwise we have to believe (and make up) random confidence levels for Gladiator in stories he's in. And if he doesn't bust a planet or move at FTL speeds during fighting, he must be "less confident"? That's absurd.

Superman holds back a great deal as do many characters in his weight class. I don't see why a bloodlusted/non holding back Superman wouldn't be stronger based on feats and the character's history. Superman doesn't have some conspiracy group trying to make him the king of versus forums.

Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777
By the way jake, superman is not treated 50/50 on here. More like 90/10. I say this because of the laughable claims he gets and just by looking at some of the characters certain people think he can beat.. thanos, odin, zeus etc.

Lots of characters suffer from that, not just Superman. I don't know who is actively saying Superman beats Odin or Zeus without amps or plot device. Thanos is a different story as quite a few posters do believe Superman would be a threat to him. I don't agree, but I won't say it's not a rare opinion.

Odin and Zeus are superior to Thanos and I can't honestly think of who thinks Superman beats either of them besides a couple of the speed zealots, who are in a vast minority to KMC as a whole.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Fully confident Gladiator is a myth in the sense that people think he's greatly ampflied beyond normal when virtually every comic he's in that mentions his confidence being a factor is only when said confidence is being diminished. He's fully confident unless it's been shown or stated or alluded that he's not. Otherwise we have to believe (and make up) random confidence levels for Gladiator in stories he's in. And if he doesn't bust a planet or move at FTL speeds during fighting, he must be "less confident"? That's absurd.

Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777
Trick makes things up that has never happened in a comic book, but he gets support while making false claims about DC characters like superman, WW etc. You know his supporters, they rule this place in numbers. How can anyone debate for their character when you have 40 or 50 people that will vote ultraman because he reminds them of the overwanked superman??.. I dont blame carver for giving up.

Excuse me. I feel I must interject. I don't make feats up. I will provide scans if I can find them, but I usually have to rely on respect threads and whatever I can find on the web. Rule this place in numbers? Do you know how many people hate Superman on this board? And I picked Ultraman because he's on Superman's level and indeed, he has faced Superman as an equal.

Show me when I have made up feats. If I have, I'll apologize and admit I was wrong.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol.

Well.

I think, if anything, Trick probably polarizes a great deal of posters against him - and I think he'll probably tell you that and maybe even revel in it. *shrug*

I highly doubt we have 40-50 active members who would weigh in on this thread, much less vote for Ultraman, and even less because of "Superman wanking". Superman's treated 50/50 on this board, imo. For everyone who tries to put him on a pedestal he's not on, you'll come across people who act like he's a mid herald and every legitimate feat/win he has in comics is PIS or because of his "Super-aura".

I seriously don't get how the hell Gladiator wins 10/10 outside of "full confidence" which is a damn myth anyway the way people act like it's a freaking amp.

For the record, I don't really debate much on here anymore. And yes, I do revel in it. thumbsupdur I actually end up picking fights with most the board at any given time. Hell, it's in my KMC yearbook entry. srug

The other thing is, Gladiator doesn't fight the same quality of opponents Superman does. I don't think he'd do nearly as well in the DCU.

Jake, gladiators powerset states that the more confident he is the stronger and more powerful he becomes, yet unlike superman, gladiator does not have writer protection... see if gladiator wins that means thor, hulk or others die in their fights. in Nearly all of his fights, hes trying to kill someone.. Writers are not going to let that happen to MAIN characters. If gladiator was the protector of earth and had to save it all the time, and thor or hulk was the killer bad guy, gladiator would fight them and win as the story goes. Superman the good guy would be different as superman the bad guy... the bad superman would get his ass handed to him by heros he should wreck.. just ask ultraman and black adam.

Writer protection? durpalm

Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777
Jake, gladiators powerset states that the more confident he is the stronger and more powerful he becomes, yet unlike superman, gladiator does not have writer protection... see if gladiator wins that means thor, hulk or others die in their fights. in Nearly all of his fights, hes trying to kill someone.. Writers are not going to let that happen to MAIN characters. If gladiator was the protector of earth and had to save it all the time, and thor or hulk was the killer bad guy, gladiator would fight them and win as the story goes. Superman the good guy would be different as superman the bad guy... the bad superman would get his ass handed to him by heros he should wreck.. just ask ultraman and black adam.

I know what his power set states. And Gladiator, by default, is always confident. His confidence is only ever brought up when it begins to wane or diminish. Otherwise, he's as confident as confident can be. It's the only thing that makes sense and supports the comics he's in. Otherwise we have to begin going through all of his appearances and determining how confident he is because he wasn't stated to be "fully confident". In which case, we have to guess - and without any basis - subscribe to him a level of confidence that the comic doesn't even hazard to imply, much less state.

Gladiator doesn't have writer protection, you're right about that. Neither does Superman. He has as much writer protection as any hero in their self title has at any given moment. Gladiator couldn't kill Thor or Hulk because he was too weak or simply unable to do so, not because of plot purposes. Gladiator even admitted that Thor was "too powerful" for him. Based on the fight and their feats, I'll take his word on it. Trying to act like plot device is the only thing that saved people from Kallark's wrath is pretty silly. If Marvel wanted Gladiator to kick Thor/Hulk's ass, they would have clearly shown him doing so and having the heroes beat him with plot device. But they didn't.

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